Malaysiakini quoted Ustaz Ahmad Awang, the Perak PAS Commissioner:
Pesuruhjaya PAS Ahmad Awang memberitahu Malaysiakini petang ini, keputusan melantik Mohamad Nizar belum muktamad dan dijangka dapat dipastikan petang esok. Katanya, calon menteri besar itu mestilah seorang berbangsa Melayu dan boleh dipilih daripada sembilan wakil rakyat PAS dan PKR.
This is another sad development. I was made to understand that this is due to procedural matter in Perak but I cannot confirm if that is truly the case. Either way, on a day that saw Malaysia beginning to reject ethnic politics, it is saddening to hear such a statement.
In Perak, DAP won 18 seats, PKR seven and PAS six. Even PKR and PAS combined (thirteen) does not exceed the total number of DAP seats. If the new state government wants to show leadership, they should fight hard to ensure DAP can head the state. DAP has rightly won it. PAS and PKR must work together to make a DAP ADUN the Chief Minister of Perak.
And at the same time the opposition parties individually must not become arrogant. They must realise that the vast majority of Malaysians did not vote for them individually. Rather, most Malaysians voted as a sign of protest to BN (particularly UMNO), and because the opposition parties were fighting as (more or less) one “Barisan Rakyat”. This is not the time for one individual party to claim that victory was due to them alone. And this is definitely not the time for any one party to exert overt pressure in shaping the agenda. They have to work together.
UPDATE 9 MARCH 08, 14.56pm GMT
Friends in Perak are saying that this is due to something in the state constitution / Undang Undang Tubuh Negeri Perak, NOT because of PAS or PKR demands. I don’t know how true this is. But if that is the case, then I urge the new state government to change it, as a matter of urgency. This should be the first legislative issue to be debated in the chamber. PAS Perak must also clarify this very quickly and commit themselves to making the change. Barisan Rakyat politicians were elected on the basis of a Malaysia for all races. Now that they have been elected, DO NOT play ethnic politics.
the most capable man shd lead, not base on race again! sad!
btw, dap’s state chief, a lawyer by profession looks capable to me?
wat say u?
I think it is about procedural matter and about Sultan’s will.But I am not sure.
I agreed. DAP is more than capable of leading Perak. From the no. of seats they won clearly they should be elected as Menteri Besar.Anyway hope for the best in Perak. =)
Let DAP to take Perak Chief Minister position.
This will show that there is UNITY, and FAIRNESS, within Barisan Rakyat.
Let there be no restriction on the race of the Chief Minister position.
Malaysia should learn from developed countries.
In USA, a BLACKMAN also can be Senator.
“TAzizan, 64, said he was expected to take his oath of office before the Sultan of Kedah, Tuanku Abdul Halim Muadzam Shah, at about 3pm.
The selection of the Kedah PAS commissioner as the Menteri Besar is in view of his position as leader of the party that has the majority in the State Legislative Assembly in the 12th general election yesterday.
.” – excerpt from NST Online 9/3/2008 (“http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Sunday/Frontpage/20080309160120/Article/index_html”)
If we follow the rationale on how the Kedah MB was chosen then the Perak MB’s seat should go to DAP, regardless. Compared with the above statement, it seems PAS is practising double standards, changing them to suit themselves. If this is indeed true, then it is a rather poor reflection of what they stand for and represent. Truly sad.
On another note, is there anythng in our constitution that requires the MB to be a Malay? If not then I see no reason for a DAP candidate not to be able to take up the post, subject always to the Sultan agreeing.
If PAS insists on an MB to be Malay and/or from PAS then it is truly sad and really shows what PAS is all about and would truly mar what would have been a truly big win for the Opposition.
I think they should select Kula as the MB because there there needs to be an Indian representation in the the light of the significant contributions of the Indians in Perak and in the nation as a whole.
Here we go. The holier than thous emerge, this is our right etcetc…for heavens sake …you have been voted in…now work together or face certain extinction.next time round…what happened to BN can easily be reversed…so sit down and work it out….pleaseeee
It is indeed that we, the MALAYSIAN had vote towards a Bangsa MALAYSIA, but sad to say before even the state government had formed, s slight ‘hiccup’ already occured. As my personal view, who, from which BA party will be the leader can be discussed and negotiated (by right he should be from the majority) but the Perak Pas Commissioner’s statement is indeed a sad statement.
Surely such blatant statement can be amended as this is a new government? Furthermore, shouldn’t it be the PKR to request for the post since it had more seat than PAS?
we worked so hard to help dap win in perak.it is unfair to decline a dap member from becoming the next menteri besar of perak.i think this will anger many dap supporters in perak. pas has already gain 2 menteri besars in kedah & kelantan, why perak where they won the least in comparison to dap?
PAS has already 2 CMs! Now they want 3 ?? greedy!
It’s just a sad thing to say when the rakyat clearly rejected racial politics.
Even if the Perak MB doesn’t go to DAP, it should be PKR who should have next preference, considering that PAS won the least number of seats. But I still say, why not DAP? It might bring the kind of development to Perak that is so needed after the previous administration’s bungling job.
according to the chinese print media, the Perak state constitution stipulates that the mentri besar has to be a Malay Muslim so not PAS commissioner’s statement is factual rather than racial
and Kula is not an ADUN but an MP so he is out of contention as MB
it’s not PAS is doing double standard or shit.. it’s the undang2 tubuh negeri..all sultanate negeri must have malay as MB.. so don’t fall for racial game that UMNO is trying to play..
and bro wan saiful..u are not doing any help,by quoting it out of context and not trying to explain it..
all rakyat have worked so hard to make this happen.. so don’t try to destroy it…
u yang only watch from far away..don’t talk shit lah..
DAP member be Menteri Besar. Vote Ngeh Koo Ham from Sitiawan. Sitiawan boleh, Perak boleh!!
If that is the case as HCA and najmi highlighted, then I guess thats that. Just wish that 1 day selection will be based on merit and that those that perform the best will be given the chance to lead. Until then…..
PLEASE DONT FALL FOR UMNO RACIAL RUMOURS. THOSE UMNO BIGOTS WILL SELL THEIR MOTHERS EVEN TO BE IN PARLIMENT OR DUN AND SEE MALAYSIA GO INTO CHAOS.
With Bangsa Malaysia, why not? If we have a constitution that is racist in nature, we must rally to change this (and others) to abolish Racist Leadership.
Let the principle of Malaysia for Malaysians prevail. If there is such an unMalaysian legislation still hanging around then it is the responsibility and natural common sensical act to abolish such an absurd policy. The spirit in which we have fought for for this election will go down the drains if this legislation is not removed by both PKR and PAS, otherwise this is going to be a very hard slap to Barisan Rakyat with a possible fallout in the near future. Lets think rationally and give the party with the largest majority to lead. This is what you call being fair and just and this is what we have fought for!
Najmi, read my post in full please.
I appreciate your insight … and I agree fully … the “former” opposition but not fall into the same trap of their predecessors .. this is a time for a new kind of politics – lots of work to be done here.
let makes a change, we need a capable leader ..its dosent matter malay,indian or chiness. As long he is perform .. since DAP cover most of the seats why dont give them a chance. we have to show BN we are running in fair & equal rights..
Penang chiness MB , Selangor malay MB, Perak lets put indian MB
18-7-6, if this was a football game or basketball game the one scoring the most goals and doing the best will be selected for the managerial position. I do not see why the state goverment that have formed and has this ruling of only states with a sultan can have a malay MB, if that is so whats the use of denying the govt 2/3 and simply let them create laws. We vote as we want our voices to be heard. If they let PAS take over, and changed it to an islamic state, let me assure all of you’ll that this is only going to be a one term as our race will feel cheated and disgusted.
[...] Perak state government [...]
Peace…
I am from Ipoh Timor and Pasir Pinji. I am also a PAS member. I voted for Lim Kit Siang and Su Keong Siong and mobilized my people from kampung to vote for DAP without any hesitation.
PAS, DAP and PKR until this very evening worked together in peace and no crisis whatsoever occurred during this very crucial moment. Like being said, the issue is about the Undang-undang Tubuh Negeri and not because of demand from PAS or PKR.
I feel strange that you suggest the constitution to be changed while the DUN has not been setup. How that change is going to be done? Outside DUN? Before the team even being setup? On the street?
Since PAS had promised that they will never introduce any radical change in Kedah, why so rush for radical change in Perak?
Since Bro Wan already said that you yourself are not pretty sure about the issue, then I would suggest that this matter should be left to our respected leaders selected by our people in Perak to discuss.
Speculations and pre judgment based on the postulates will lead to nothing except damaging the tremendous peace people in my hometown achieve at the moment.
Even though many Malay seems a bit restless about having their first MB from among the Chinese leaders, but I see that people are very impressed with the peace Sunday morning we had in Perak today.
This issue should not be raised without conformity because the price is very high.
Let the people in Perak decide and please respect the process.
Abu Saif, you missed my point. I said “This should be the first legislative issue to be debated in the chamber.” This is an opportunity to lead. Tell the world that the first agenda on our new state government is to rectify the shortcoming of the state constitution. That is leadership, and it is not taking it to the street.
“Speculations and pre judgment based on the postulates will lead to nothing except damaging the tremendous peace people in my hometown achieve at the moment.” Agreed. And that is why this MUST be clarified now by all parties involved. Otherwise we are just letting the state opposition machinery create trouble.
“why so rush for radical change in Perak?” Because the people of Perak themselves have voted for a radical change. They voted for a majority DAP state legislature.
Salam.
Ya, ia adalah Undang2 tubuh kerajaan negeri yg mempunyai Raja untuk memelihara persetujuan Perlembagaan agar Hak Ketuanan Melayu tidak digugat.
Kita tidak perlu pergi terlalu jauh buat masa ini kerana kerjasama masih di peringkat longgar. Even saya dengar DAP juga ada masalah di Selangor (kawan saya terasa hati kerana wakil Gobind Singh hanya datang untuk dapatkan jumlah undi tanpa menjengok atau bertegur sapa dengan kawan2 PAS dan PKR yang mobilize undi Melayu untuk dia).
Untuk saya buat masa ini kita semua harus mengakui bahawa setiap dari parti malah individu seperti DS Anwar telah menyumbang untuk wajah baru di Malaysia kini. Dan ini hanya permulaan untuk jaringan kerjasama yang lebih jelas.
Walaupun soal ‘tidak ngam’ juga dimainkan UMNO-BN, saya kekal percaya bahawa mereka yang terbuka melihat perbezaan pendapat di kalangan pimpinan selain BN yang dipilih akan memberi nilai tambah dan keyakinan bahawa mereka yang terpilih di kalangan selain BN akan benar-benar berani meWAKILi rakyat.
Rakyat (yang menolak BN) pilih PAS, PKR, DAP atau BEBAS kerana itulah pilihan yang mereka ada di sana untuk mengelakkan keangkuhan BN berterusan. Persetujuan ini juga telah melalui proses yang tidak mudah malah saya percaya ada yang makan hati juga – demi menunaikan hasrat umum Mematahkan Keangkuhan BN.
Kini proses membentuk Malaysia Baru bermula dengan lebih jelas. InsyaAllah kita akan terus memantau proses ini.
The opposition slogan for this round of election is : Just Change It! And now they had gain the votes, why not we take a CHANGE to have a non-malay candidate to be a MB? Is only going to be 1 term after all, is sad see opposition parties “fighting” for this position even before they started to rule Perak. Rules and regulations can be changed, lets not be too rigid.
The thing about having a non Malay MB is that it will be against the Perak constitution. That may agitate(give an excuse for) certain parties to cause riots and that may undermine our votes in this historic election.
Personally, i think it would be best if each party just nominated an executive councillor who will for all intents and purposes take on the functions of an MB together and let the people of Perak decide who will become the actual MB in the following week by popular vote. And from that send a strong message that this Opposition coalition will stand for democracy in Malaysia. Sadly, that does not seem likely to happen.
Also, DAP has denied the rumors that a PAS candidate will be chosen as the next Perak MB. We’ll just have to wait and see.
as long as he is a capable person , it doesn’t matter from which party.. we voted them in, and we hope to see they do the job else they won’t get our vote next time around.
The rule of having Malay chief ministers in sultanates is an unwritten one. Just as much as we hope that the party with the biggest majority will be the Mentri Besar of the state (as per constitutional laws), I will admit that fighting particles of a legislation which protects the special rights of the Malays will be a dangerous ground to tread upon. After all, it was agreed upon in the People’s Declaration that we will uphold Malay rights.
Nevertheless, it is hoped that whoever becomes MB (pending new Govt’s consultation with Sultan) will push to change these laws and right whatever wrongs that the previous Govt did. More importantly, it is hoped that they will make changes for the better in the state. DSAI will be leading them so let’s wait. At least they’re trashing things out at the discussion table and not being “yes-men” to everything.
At the time being, we need to get the MB and the DUN. When we have the team, then only the issue can be discussed in the chamber properly and the amendment become possible.
If the team agrees upon the amendment, I don’t think that they will have any problem even to reelect the MB from DAP based on the new constitution
But do we have to remind PAS, PKR and DAP not to play racism as if they, especially PAS, are unaware about this matter? The responses to your ‘friendly advice’ had already lead to the unnecessary accusation to the credibility of all these 3 parties
Give some credit to the ability of DAP, PKR and PAS to handle it.
I will have my patience and believe in their wisdom.
I am a Chinese DAP supporter from Johor, who support any Opp party because as a law graduate, I truly appreciate the check n balance mechanism of our parliamentary system.
I thank Abu Saif from pointing out the procedural issue about changing the State Constitution before election. Many DAP supporters see it only right for a DAP CM, Chinese or other (Indian), as DAP, among the non-BN parties, won most seats. Apart from that, we have capable lawyers at DAP state leadership.
Hope all can appreciate that DAP has ONLY 18 out of 59 ADUNs, which clearly don’t represent the majority Perak Rakyat. We all despite UMNO’s type of one-party rule tyrannical leadership, don’t we? How can we think simplistically that, by virtue being the biggest winning non-BN party in Perak, DAP should take the MB?
Think objectively. If we put forward one DAP candidate and PAS/PKR put forward another Malay, do you think UMNO’s 27 ADUNs more likely to support? In present time, who will the Perak Rakyat really prefer? I sincerely hope we can have DAP MB there but the rakyat’s mentality still very must think along racial line.
Let’s hope we have an good mixed team with an understanding, open-minded and capable PAS/PKR MB with a DAP vice-MB and slight majority DAP Excos. We can’t just filled Exco’s seats with PAS/PKR ADUNs as there are too few to choose from and there are many capable DAP DUNs to choose from.
Thank you Robert. Very good comment and, honestly, I like your idea.
For me, as the results already showed that DAP should be the menteri besar for Perak. DAP had won 18 seats compared to the combination of PAS and PKR of 13 seats. So, why not let DAP to be the MB of Perak?
Pemimpin kita dari PAS, PKR dan DAP lebih terkehadapan dalam soal sebegini.
PERCAYALAH.
We have to consider race population to determine who will become MB. Remember, Perak has DYMM Sultan.
We all Perakians went to polls on March 8, 2008 to show BN how we the grassroots felt about their discriminating policies. Now after a tremendous mandate given by the people of Perak to DAP ( as most would see DAP fit to be CM ) , we now have to worry about PAS being our CM and their practised policies in Kelantan, which most us liberals frown upon. After all, Chinese made up the majority here. No doubt, we have to give them a chance, but its like bugging at the back of our heads; ” Why a PAS CM (all because of some constitution made by the BN years ago ???) After all , DAP garnered the most seats here, why not a Chinese CM …….. Since PAS is already CMs for Kedah and Kelantan – already 2 in their favour. Well if ” CHANGE” is what DAP, PKR and PAS has been preaching all these while, so go ahead and prove to us you guys CAN CHANGE the legislature of not having a Malay as CM. As suggested by the others here, if not a Chinese CM, why not an Indian CM. Now I call that CHANGE & FAIR as all races are integrated in!!!
Selangor will nominate TS Khalid and Teng Chang Khim as CM and deputy. I think Datuk Hassan Ali will be one of the excos.
Ke arah Selangor maju.
Taken from pas.org.my:
An Islamic cleric, Azizan Abdul Razak (Degree in Syariah from Al-Azhar University and Degree in Law from University of Kent), 63, was named to lead the government in Kedah, said PAS president Abdul Hadi Awang.
He said Mr Azizan will not impose Islamic laws of the kind in force in Kelantan, including segregation of sexes in public places and a ban on gambling, alcohol, cinemas and nightclubs. Such places flourish in Langkawi, a popular tourist resort island in Kedah state.
He said PAS would consult its two political allies – the Chinese-based Democratic Action Party or DAP and the multiracial People’s Justice Party known by its Malay acronym PKR – before implementing such rules. He said PAS will also seek feedback from the local community.
‘We will first discuss with our non-Muslim friends. We all have different faiths. Whatever activities that are allowed by other religions, even though they are banned in Islam, we cannot disturb. That is their right,’ he told reporters.
‘We will ensure freedom of religion, freedom of worship and the right to carry out their daily affairs,’ he said.
Hm, I’m afraid I don’t understand: If people voted for BA instead of BN (regardless of whether it’s DAP/PKR/PAS), then how does that translate to DAP heading the State Gov simply because it won more seats compared to PKR and PAS? There weren’t any DAP vs PKR / DAP vs PAS seats that were contested, to begin with.
We must bear in mind perak has 59 state seats. DAP garnered 18 seats. Thats only 30.5% while BN garnered 49% (29 seats). So in total, DAP is no majority representative as a whole for the state seats total tally. Its due to the coalition of oppositions only then Perak has fallen into the Barisan Rakyat.
For me, i believe that changing the constitution to give way for non-malays may be seen as too radical and i’m not sure if it would be good or bad which may be exploited by UMNO. So, the optimal choice here will most probably to have a PKR MB and DAP Deputy MB and a higher amount of DAP state exco in the states legislative assembly to regconise the mandate given to DAP.
PS: i’m a chinese
I’m a proud Perakian and from the pattern of other states i.e. Penang, Kedah & Selangor that falls in opposition hands, their CM comes from the winning majority. So why not Perak CM was given to DAP since they won the most seats in the BA coalition? It is not about race, but I would rather prefer to have Kulasegaran (Ipoh Barat) to be the CM as Penang has already got a non-Malay as CM, so why not having an Indian as the first ever CM in Malaysian history? It would be a meaningful gift to the Malaysian Indian’s after what they have suffered through marginalisation all these years plus recent injustice towards HINDRAF actvists.
I don’t mind if that was overruled IF Sultan Perak says NO cos’ a CM must be Malay based on whatever ‘undang-undang tubuh kerajaan negeri’ that they had based on Malay custom. But I would hope that at least a DCM, would still be an Indian, that’ll be Kulasegaran.
And as for CM if that’s the case, I would be much in favor of a PKR Malay to be a CM since PAS has already got 2 CM’s.
Btw, is just my 2 cents cos by principle; those who wins deserves it.
I am writing from a neutral point of view and all this while I have not whatsoever confidence in either side of the political arena as it will not lead to anything.
I believe we are stucked in a rather sticky situation here. What kind of change are we talking about here? Change for the better or change to becoming more confused? I believe the latter more likely for most of us. 18 DAP to 13 PKR + PAS altogether? Do the maths. Clearly DAP, no doubts about it.
Special allowance can be made to change the state constitution even before the forming of the state government if such are agreeable by the combination of the three parties and obviously with the consent of the Sultan of Perak.
By the way, ADUN BN in Perak should also agree to this for the benefit of the people in Perak and also all Malaysians to prove that BN is working towards uphodling the democratic lives of Malaysians and ensuring peace and harmony among Malaysians from different racial background and walks of life. BN has been successful track in maintaining Malaysia as a harmonious multi-racial society and should strive to maintain that by agreeing to the said change in consitution. It is the collaborative actions of all parties involved to ensure a strong platform for change in our country!
I do 100% agree with Dr. M’s remark that many Malaysians did not have a choice. They were not satisfied with BN and had to vote for the opposition. However, I believe the opposition, though performed well during the election, had not performed their planning well enough. There should be contingency plans to handle the abovementioned issue prior to the election. I do feel that most voters, especially those for DAP, feel very shortchanged. There was no adequate planning at all! How could most winners from the opposition state that they did not expect to win so much? Are those acceptable reasons? You tell me this and you tell me that I should have faith and confidence in you running the state and not to mention the country?????!!!! You say change for the better. I agree. However, are you capable enough to run the country??? Can mere lawyers run the country? Do you have the necessary resources and skills? Do I let you win, have patience and let you have the time to learn from scratch????! It is not about winning and taking over. It is also about what happens next!
To me this is a big embarassment and chaos to the country. It also affects everybody. How will foreign investors look at us? Look at our stock market on Monday and prove me wrong. Generally I seriously prefer stability rather than change where adequate planning has not been undertaken at all. Changing to have a Chinese CM is good. However, can the Chinese CM run a good show or likewise anyone from the opposition parties that won? Apart from campaigning to try to win votes, do they have the necessary know-how to give us the confidence in successfully running the government?
Sad to say, i dont think malaysia is ready for racial tolerance in politics. For the sake of peace and unity DAP should just let PKR or PAS hold the M.B post. Hopefully in time to come we will overcome this obstacle and racial prejudice.Let us just make it a success for the new govt.
Hi,
I dont understand some of your arguments. So what if someone suggests that the Perak MB be Malay? Further more, eventhough DAp won majority seats, DAP is”technically” a multi racial party hence there isnt and hard and fast rule if DAP wins, a non malay should be MB. This is childish, some of you guys are going back to the thoughts of being BN!
Looking from a sensitivity point of view, as a non-malay who’s parents come from Perak and Penang, i feel undand undang or nto, for now, its best to have a really qualified Malay to head PErak. Too much shock in changes of top leadership may upset certain quarters. We can change the government overnight, we cant change malaysian mindset and race based thought overnight as we have been entrenched with it for years.
I suggest a really good malay candidate as MB, regardless of from which party. The deputy can be non-malay. They can the ammend legislation and discuss rotation or so for fair play. But in essence the society needs time to digest this changes.
I dont want my malay brothers to feel that the country is being invaded by non’s and they will loose grip. Start slow, the non-malay politicians must proof their sincerity. Given our past history pre 69, malays went out and voted for a chinese party without looking at race.
We will get back there, but not overnight. For now, as long we dont have pass talking about Hudud and kelantan like laws, i think its prefectly normal to have the MB as malay. Lets start somewhere and not start demanding too much. Remember 69!
We also should not look at the parties individually but a coalition of opposition so it should nto matter which party the MBc omes from. Eventually, for the best of Malaysia, they should all merge with a secular constitution as its foundation!
I dont agree that just because hindraf triggered a swing of votes to opposition should an indian be an MB or deputy MB. We should look past this. For this same reason, why it hink Penang should have a deputy CM.
ps-i’m indian
as has been pointed out, PAS only has 6 seats in perak. can a PAS MB pass any law he likes without the consent of PKR and DAP? unlike kedah and kelantan, the DUN in perak, penang and s’gor need at least two opposition parties to make a majority. i note from lim guan eng’s speech after claiming penang that he said DAP will work with PKR to form state govt. (no mention of PAS) but in perak, all 3 opposition parties need to vote together to pass any state regulation. For an extreme example, can a PAS MB implement syariah law for non-muslims if the 18 DAP DUNs voted against it?
as a chinese i understand the initial adverse reaction from my race to a PAS MB, there is a misconceived feeling of betrayal that DAP has “given” the state to PAS after the rakyat voted them in. on further reflection, this is playing exactly into the hands of the BN who for years have portrayed PAS as a “boogeyman” to the chinese. PAS is not the enemy. PAS may have differing ideas and views on certain issues just as they have common stands on others. After working so hard to win 5 states from BN don’t let irrational fears and unsubstantiated and unsustainable racial based politics ruin it. if it breaks down now, it will be exactly what BN predicted will happen if the opposition won. don’t fall into that trap.
Who can guarantee a peaceful harmonious state if PAS were to take over the head of Perak? To ensure all stability, perhaps a representative of PKR should become an MB. Racial issues solved as PKR consist of all races? You do realize the sensitivites involved if a PAS member is selected, don’t you? However, my issue of capable leadership is not tackled yet. Perhaps it is possible to select a capable individual as CM. However, what about the other State representative to handle development for the state as well as its efficient administration?
John,
Corruption in BN has penetrated way beyond its roots probably to an irreparable state. A clean slate of government will serve as a breath of fresh air to the political arena of Malaysia which certainly is a healthy development to the democracy process in our motherland.
In the existing scenario, its best to give the benefit of doubt to the existing opposition coalition whom i’m sure will be working hard on their homework to buck up, in order to prove to both BN and Rakyat that gave them the mandate to show that they are more than talks and that they can prove themselves to be a real alternative ‘Malaysian’ party in comparison to the beyond-help BN.
These sort of opportunity is not an easy-to-come-by scenario in our political arena, so I’m sure the opposition coalition will put a 110% to make things work.
Kent
It’s a guarantee of effeciency and stablity that I’m looking for. Perhaps we have differing views. Not only for administration but also economic stability which also the livelihood of Malaysians. What will foreign investors think of us Malaysians and Malaysia as a country? Some races are more affluent than others. What happens if there’s economic slowdown and the income gap among races widen? What will happen? Is there a control mechanism ready to handle such a serious issue? Even though there is change for the better, I believe equity participation of certain races in business should still be continued. I support Dr. M’s vision, direction and forward thinking in anticipating that such problems. Only if he’s still around, then we can have a steadier and more controlled environment for all.
I am pretty sure its a constitutional restriction that limits the post of the Menteri Besar to a Malay Muslim. This is not unique to Perak and is also part of the constitutions of most (if not all) of the 9 Malay states.
This controversy does expose a few weaknesses
- Political parties in Malaysia remain identified by ethnicity, if not by design then by evolution. This is especially true of parties that were founded in the early years of our nationhood and have survived the tumult of our national politics to this present age
- National identity in Malaysia is extremely weak and fragile and is still primarily defined within the lenses of ethnicity
- The lack of political parties that transcends ethnicity on both sides of the political divide which allows for such disagreements to occur
As a card carrying member of KeADILan, I am tempted to claim that KeADILan meets the criteria of transcending ethnicity. Nonetheless, I am also of the opinion that as long as we are still forced to call ourselves a multi-ethnic party, ethnicity remains a dominant factor in Malaysian realities and will not become a non-issue. God knows that many of us are trying to consciously challenge this paradigm but political parties, as all other organisations, merely reflect the opinions of their constituents.
The relative success of the non BN parties this elections does promise to pave the way for the realignment of Malaysia’s political paradigms but this is merely a first step in that direction. How this plays out will depend on the people and the parties.
Do you actually think that the BN led government was an efficient and stable one in an economical aspect. Amidst competition from our uprising giants around Asia, how well do you think Malaysia fared under BN’s lead? News about how well the economy is doing, don’t you think the reports are very shady? The undeniable fact remains that M’sia without Petronas, would have long bankrupt under BN with their spending patterns on mega projects that fail to address the basic needs of society. It benefits only the middlemen and has minimal benefits for the Rakyat. If talks about concerns in economy, i believe it should be about life after our petrol runs out.
Bro wan,like i said..u not doing any good by raising up this issue. i personally think it’s stupid. it has lead to nowhere and (god forbid) may cause penat-lelah rakyat destroyed..
why the hell should we focus on something so radical like this,that u yourself know will benefit umno?
the first thing is to give back the wealth to the rakyat. repair the economy. demolish any corruption..that should be the first agenda.. not some stupid radical idea like yours.
this maybe too harsh..but u sound like an UMNO agent..try to tikam dari belakang..
remember bro..u yang hidup senang di London tak sama dengan rakyat yang susah di Pendang.. so don’t try to destroy the victory as u know rakyat will do anything to preserve this..
p/s: please be responsible on what u write..i know this is your blog..but doesn’t mean u can say whatever u like.. if u know what i mean..
“Bro” najmi, No, I don’t know what you mean. This is my blog but you want to control it? Ahhhh…. now I get it. In fact, I think I know where you get that attitude (and language) from – I’ve heard it all before.
And, is it not the case that there are also people “hidup senang” di Ireland yang tak sama dengan rakyat yang hidup susah di Pendang?
Last time Malay got majority seat in Penang state seat but the Chief Minister is Chinese. What do you want to say about it?
‘In fact, I think I know where you get that attitude (and language) from – I’ve heard it all before.’
Like i said..this is your blog..sorry for disturbing..thanx..
The rakyat has spoken thru their ballot, it was great to work together
doesnt matter the race. There maybe some rules and regulations drawn for whatever reason to suit the political phenomenon at that time, now times have changed, we know that. Please use strategy, good sense and debate wisely to move forward. Anger will only destroy the place it originates. Do not use race against each other anymore. Work with and around what we have now for the benefit of rakyat. Work towards removing discriminatory legislations that doesnt benefit even the group it seeks to protect. I think we want to see ourselves as rakyat malaysia and gradually transcend the ethnic and religious devide for the benefit all. I believe if we keep working together and move forward the bud will break and the flower will bloom.
Panjangnya….
Mana boleh tukar abang….nak buat undang2 baru mesti ada 2/3 undi. Jangan kerana nak gelojoh jadi MB non malay, Melayu satu Perak memberontak kerajaan negeri. Apa hangpa dapat…relaks la…. Perjuangan kita masih jauh……..
Gigi memang betul… Umno pernah dapat majoriti di Penang tapi Ketua Menteri still Cina Gerakan. Ini kerana kita ada kontrak sosial yang jangan diusik sewenang2nya. Penang majoriti rakyatnya adalah Cina. So dialah perintah.
Jika Cina jadi MB Perak, itu hanya mewakili berapa peratus drp rakyat Perak? Hangpa ni bukan real politician based on reality. Just idea2 aje lebih.
Thanks…
Jangan lupa, MB perak adalah MB kepada rakyat Perak, nukan ahli DAP atau ahli pembangkang.
So populasi perak mesti diambil kira, barulah kerajaan akan disokong rakyat dan ahli umno yang majoriti measih BN akan berubah sokong BA.
Jika isu remeh ini dibangkitkan oleh kita, nantilah keruntuhan BA di Perak.
Media(TV+newspaper) controled by BN, every Malaysians knows.
Where’s major newspaper news come from on Perak new MB, is from Bername, who control Bernama?
About Perak new MB:
However, the truth fact is why everyone looking forward for ‘Change’! Chinese+Indians are looking for ‘equality’ and anti-corruption, bad country mangement while Malays are anti-corruption and bad country mangement as well as inflation.
From what we learn from advanced country: ‘equality’…simple definition is minority obey majority decision, and majority respect minority desire.
Hence, why Perak MB is not seated by majority(DAP 18 seat?) I knew is the pre-independent act that stated MB is a muslim.
But, let me make assumption:
If 6(PAS) selected to become MB, 2 consequences: Perak Chines and Indians will not think it is fair, as 41%(chinese) 15-16%(Indians) won’t vote BR again, cause ‘equality’ is not occured, it still racist methodology (pre-independent act).
*Most probably, Muslim MB(PKR/PAS) and 29 seats BN won’t agree to change the act(2/3 majority can change act of MB races).
*Then, maybe this 5 years, DAP+PKR+PAS still can cooperate well, but next election, Perakians especially DAP supports won’t believe equality happens in BR, as even majority oso can’t decide MB. It will go back to BN again last election.
Try to think like a voters not any politicians way, btw as a small malaysian citizens: who become or what races become MB is not our most concerns, we only want to kick corrupt MB out of state. I admit that select PKR maybe can reduce the dramatic change, but keep in mind, 18DAP 100% win oso can’t select MB, what will happens in next selection(future)?
What we care about actually is the developement and respect to all races in perak in this 5 years. Our salary, religion, safety, crimeless environment is most concern. Nevertheless the ‘Equality’ slogan. If majortiy is not been proven as what BR mentioned during pre-election, then, BR will lost a lot of votes on next election.
My conclusion: Majority should be the MB, DAP(18)+PKR(7)+PAS(6) should urge the sultan to think about our future in ‘equality’ in order to become first state to change the act to appointed majority seats party to select MB.
Normally sultan is higher educated in overseas, I believe they are mature enough than corrupted gov.
If BN has learn their lesson, they should be generous to use >2/3 vote to change this pre-independent act in order to proof that they are not running racist politic line.
Everybody, please don’t look for this 5 years(short term MB), please looking forward for future. If next election PKR/PAS wins majority seat at Perak, DAP will support MB appointed from majority seat party of BR.
This is what we called ‘equality’ , it is not a slogan like BN, but BR should proof it well…
P/S: Like Selangor, even DAP get 13 and PKR get 15, slightly different, u can see how efficient DAP support PKR(majority) become MB that day. This already proof DAP is running multi-races policy.
***equality is act, not word or sloagan***
Don’t let BN spread their rumour on BR supporter ! Currently stock market already drop 82…maybe some foreign investor fear in some state control by BR especially Penang and Selenagor… but as every experts above said, ‘Perjuangan masih jauh’, don’t let little lost in stock market fear us…maybe is strategy of BN to cause fear in malays, chinese, and indians…
Perak MB might be their first strategy to diversify BR, if BR proof mature enough in handling this most urgent issues, as well as strong development and equality in Selangor and Penang(high foreign investor port)…to proof this coming 5 years can develop better than BN… then, next election still have better improvment in votes…
If not, abang-adik(whatever Malaysian that looking forware in future) will have to wait another 50 years for ‘equality, anti-corrupted change’!!! Please take note on this (PKR/DAP/PAS)….
With A PAS MB in Perak,
- DEMOCRACY is dead.
- RULE OF LAW is dead.
DEMO- CRAZY is alive.
DAP will be dead the next election.
Just watch.
Chinese don’t forget so easily!
Experts above, actuallly is nothing to do with races!
Indians, Malay, Chines from majority party should be able to break the pre-independent act.
If some professional like Kali(selangor)(works as many CEO at overseas) that selected from majority seat PKR, no matter u are malay, chinese or indians oso will support him.
This is definition of ‘equality’! We are only little citizens, what we care about races on MB, as long as he is anti-corrupt and efficient, is more than enough…We are not politicians in these parties, who cares about races! but what I am emphasize is majority lead shouldn’t ever been an doubt of selection MB. If next election, penang majority seat by PKR or PAS, DAP should and 100% have to let majority BA party to select thier MB(maybe not called MB) at penang.
If someone still too care about races 43%(Malay) 41%(Chinese), 15%(Indians) at Perak, then what the BA slogan mentioned about ‘equality’ and ‘Malaysian’s Malaysia’ at pre-election is bullshit.
I found that many knowledge chinese are seeking for peaceful settlement(PKR MB), while many knowledgable Malay don’t mind any races to become MB as long as it is anti-corrupt and efficient.
Knowlegable Malays already dare to change, why chines and indians are so cared of 69 and BN rumor? Who control bernama?
Mostly, I really scared is not the MB appointed by DAP (Cause nowadays all malaysians is knowledgeable via internet especially youTube)…but rather oppurtunity in next election…
**1 dilemma in Perak:
If MB is not selected from majority, then perakians will starting to change on next election, cause ‘equality and fair’ is many peoples objective.
However, if DAP selected and changing the act, then maybe will cause problem influence by BN rumor… maybe join gov of BN with PKR/PAS to form state gov. at perak….
then all BA supporters, please wait another 50 years for anti-corrupt, equality, freedom and justice…
*I believe the difficulities is not from knowledgable Perak Sultan, but instead of politic future consideration, and ‘equality’ from perakians BA voters point of view
What our BA supporters looks for is better development, lowest crime, anti-currupt, peaceful environment at Perak state. Whatever races become MB is not an issue, but ‘equality’ must be emphasis on… If not, u can predict how the outcome of Perak on next election.
Of course, if BA really doing bad job at state goverment than BN, all BA supports will go back to BN on next election. ‘Even Americans did not matter different in races, why do we?’
As a little Malaysian citizens, what I care is my money, peaceful and equality. Who cares on what races lead, as long as he/she is excellent
Jika kita melihat kepada majoriti parti yang menang, apakah DAP yang banyak menang atau UMNO?
Jika dilihat kepada jumlah kaum di DUN apakah cina lebih banyak atau Melayu dan India?
Jika dilihat kepada rakyat Perak, apakah Melayu Cina atau India yang banyak?
Jika dilihat kepada peratus pengundi keseluruhan, dicampurkan kesemua undi kalah dan menang, parti manakah yang lebih banyak dapat undian?
Jika kesaksamaan itu dengan bermakna DAP mesti menjadi MB, apakah DAP memerintah sendirian atau bersama ” Pakatan Pembangkang? ”
Jika Pakatan Pembangkang membentuk kerajaan, maka pemilihan MB ditentukan oleh pakatan itu.
Beberapa formula boleh digunakan : 1. Parti dalam pakatan paling majoriti- ini formula yang biasa diamalkan. Apa pula risiko atau kesannya nanti, seperti hubungan dengan Sultan, pegawai kerajaan negeri, dan rakyat Perak kesemuanya?
2. Jika dilantik drp kalangan Melayu dalam pakatan : Apa pula kesannya kepada yang disebut di atas, di tambah kesan terhadap pengundi DAP drp kalangan Cina dan India. ( Dan jangan lupa, di kawasan DAP bertanding, ahli PAS dan PKR juga mengundi mereka, bukan semata2 ahli dan penyokong tegar DAP yang majoritinya Cina. ) Yang mana lebih mendatangkan kebaikan dan mengurangkan risiko negatif.
Persoalan seterusnya : Apakah objektif pengundi2 DAP ketika mengundi, termasuk ahli PAS dan apakah objektif dan manifesto DAP Perakketika berkempen kepada rakyat?
Dan apa yang pasti, jika MB Perak di kalangan DAP, UMNO akan mengadakan isu PKR dan PAS menjual negeri kepada Cina dengan pakatan tersebut. Jangan lupa, isu 13 Mei ditiupkan oleh Umno dan menyebabkan MAGERAN diisytiharkan. Apakah kesannya kepada kerajaan dan rakyat Perak.
Tidak mustahilkah PAS mengambil keputusan keluar dari pakatan kerana fitnah yang ditimbulkan oleh UMNO adalah besar, dan sukar dijawab oleh PAS terhadap rakyat. Dan ini juga tidak akan diterima oleh ahli PAS sendiri. Apa kesannya jika PAS keluar? BN yang korup dan zalim akan memerintah semula Perak?
Apa yang kita mahukan sebenarnya? MB for majority or Kerajaan for integrity and justice!!!
Democracy is not all about MB.
TQ.
will perak be labeled as an islamic state???
NO TO RELIGIOUS LABELED STATE!! Perak are multi-racial and must be a plural state.
[...] in parliament as before or there will be unhappiness. Will the Chinese understand why the CM of Perak is not a DAP candidate even though DAP won largely in that state. But then most of them do not [...]
Dear All,
We have to come out with something that is good for the country.
Not the matter of Parties. We need to coorperate in order to advance to a higher stage.
BN , DAP , PAS , PKR has to learn to work together. To provide the best to the RAKYAT not PARTY.
BN have to be adapt decision making which has to go throught decision making. GO through ( PAS, DAP and PKR)
Thisi s the way of doing this. Noone is perfect. So try to get 2nd opinion.
Dear All Malay,Chinese,Indian and Other races. Please be united. We have been United for soo many decade. And we will still~!
“Malaysian (No Matter BN,PKR,DAP,PAS ) for Malaysia~!”
I Am Proud to be a Malaysian~!
Take Care Fellow Malaysian~!
Regards,
Adrian Q
Aiyoooo… why so bising lar? Barang Naik party must be very happy reading all these posts.
Seriously, everyone has good points here, but let’s us stay calm for awhile. Don’t argue, just TRUST. Trust the pakatan (DAP + PKR + PAS) we voted.
Now using trust, SUPPORT whatever decision they made. Please stay united.
PS. BTW, I’m Chinese, a DAP supporter and many of my friends voted for PAS. We see beyond racial lines.
Malaysian Brothers and Sisters,
I sincerely hope that in Perak, since Malays is the Majority by population, MB must be a Malay… but the EXcos must consists of all races… must make sure some Indians make up the excos.
We have to understand that BN is waiting to whack Barisan Rakyat in the event of dispute. Let us united to show that we are capable to govern the 5 states better than BN. 5 years is a very short period to prove… at the end what we want is that there is actually an alternative to BN known as Barisan Rakyat which is transparent, dedicated, clean and truly Malaysian…
PLEASE DON’T LET THIS A MAJOR ISSUE AND LET THE ENERMY HAD THE CHANCE TO KILL US…..
HIDUP BARISAN RAKYAT…
FROM,
PENANG,
If ‘bising’ is a problem then we might as well be cows following everything that we are told to do.There is such a thing as continual improvement.Therefore, the win by the opposition does not end there, we have to continue improving our system for the greater glory of our beloved country and for ALL Malaysians…..until there is no preferential treatment based on race or religion.We should be judged by our contribution and not by perjudice.
It will be a laughing stock. The basics of the game in democracy is majority rule, not otherwise.
Race and religion should not be the deciding factor in deciding the MB, it should be given to a capable MALAYSIAN !, be he/she a MALAY, CHINESE or INDIAN! Most important of all it should be given to the person in the party with the MAJORITY!
With only 31 State Assembly Members (DAP 18, KeADILan 7, PAS 6), is it possible to amend the Undang-undang Tubuh Kerajaan Negeri Perak, without supportive participation from BN that still holds 28 seats ?
I am not sure about state constitutions, but you need 2/3 majority to pass constitutional amendments in Federal level.
Of course, I wholeheartedly agree that it’s the biggest irony for the new state government that came into power with people’s aspiration to get rid of communal / racial politics.
First of all do you all agree that only Sekolah Kebangsaan only allow in this country. B Malaysia should be used only as official language.
Malaysia should be reflect as Malaysia as identity. Do you know
Like in Indonesia – all chinese speak and go to the same school
Do you think UK and Queent Allzebert, UK will accept muslim become PM of UK
In UK no other school than english is allow. Jewish school is allow but they have turn down muslim right.
Politic is not stright process
Do you think Jewish will accept plastein to become thier citizen
Thialand – all mlaya to use and allow to use thai language
c’mon brothers and sisters. stop arguing. we are what we are. as long as we stand united, nobody can take advantage on us. we follow the undang-undang tubuh 1st. And after we whack BN’s ass, we simply change it. Our top priority, stand together and whack BN out of Perak. No more BN in Perak. Secondly, we change undang-undang tubuh. How bout that?
How about we close all chinese and tamil – we change this law as well
All right from kindergarden, no taska or kemas or chines kindergarden
Please my question first.
The way you talk is stright forward talk
In political anything possible. Like chinese saya “sungai lurus tidak ada ikan”
Just think – do not fall into the trap
How about we close all chinese and tamil school- we change this law as well. All right from kindergarden, PASTI,no taska or kemas or chines kindergarden.
Please my answer question first. If all you agreed. This my fundamental this to my friends other than Malay
The way you talk is stright forward talk
In political anything possible. Like chinese saya “sungai lurus tidak ada ikan”
Just think – do not fall into idealism
Mirror of what happen in Pakistan, Thailand coalation goverment.. full of dream.. rotten inside..
In America thier political landscape different than us
Homosex is possible – For Republican and Democratic can accept it
Do you think PAS or politician in Malaysia
Why JUNTA in Mynmmar would not allow democratic procees to happen accept Aun Su ki ellected to becoame PM in the last ellection???
Why CHINA will not allow TAIWAN to split (independent) from main CHINA.
TAIWAN had carried-out refrerendum with big majority favour?? It is democratic.
TAIWAN also have the right to have thier independent state based on thier own interest.
It also happen TIBET
Political decision is difference than academician decision
Think about you
In politic there a lot of MUSLIHAT or politic game
Satu MALAYSIA SATU BAHASA
BAHASA MALAYSIA – DO YOU ALL AGREED
ALL SUBJECT TEACH IN BM and SOme in ENGLISH not in BAHASA IBUNDA.
WHAT HAPPEN TO OUR NEIGHBOUR in SOUTHERN THAILAND – ALL is MALAY sultanate states – now what happen thy being marginalised.
Mula-mula nampak manis – SINGAPURA udah JADI SINGAPORE
Jgn tertipu – dah dapat lain cerita. Jgn “Tergula” dengan istilah demokratik. What happen in IRAQ
Fikirkan
Raja Melayu jangan tertipu lagi
stick to the topic
Because you all bias
This is relevant tojustify on what you claim – to ammend the Perak or federal state allow to allow non-malay to become MB
Why do you want to considered the only SEK KEBANGSAAN IS ALLOW so all races go to the same school with the same language for
I will ask FEDERAL GOV to abolish /ammend the constituent so CHINESE AND TAMIL SCHOOL (SRJK) is BAN only SK is allow from standard one . BARU ADA PERPADUAN
“CINTAILAH BAHASA MALAYSIA”
Do not close you eye in this issue.
Pejuang
Melayu BODOH -
SATU NEGARA SATU ALIRAN BAHSA SEKOLAH – di indonesia, di singapore, di thailand, UK, Russia mengapa tidak di Malaysia
Do not forget over 110 member parliment in Federal goverment now is BUMIPUTRA – We can table this motion to get reaction from your all in PARLIMEN
Do you agree or not
So you can debate on this issue – you all bias or not
RELEVANT ISSUE
KSA, JJ, KMM…
Please don’t out of topic….
Now what I am thinking in this site/blog/forum is…
Is there any BN supporter that come here to spread his/her racist line policy?
As 3 experts above said, please be unity… why care so much on racist/races line of policy?
We are not politicians, money, equality, safety(lowest crime), anti-currupt is should be our most concerns…It is definately affect our normal life, not the races of MB…
Have u think ever, how terrible is the crime increament after BN lead on 2004. Do u like to live in 69? do u live to be ‘rap’ / ‘steal’ / ‘murdered’? Please be less emotional in races, money in our pocket(inflation) is even in higher priority…
I am a chinese, and totally no mind of races, but rather pro-fair and pro-development.
If I can choose, I rather want a anti-currupt muslim instead of currupt chinese in any state to become MB… Nevertheless, if a non-muslim is excellent like ‘lee guang yew’…why we not appoint him instead of finding lack level one… u want A++ to live richer and safer, or want B++ to live poorer….
(My ideology is nothing to do with party, races, we can best CEO to manage our states and government). Only politicians analyze in politic and power way, not our little citizens…
I suspect ‘Pejuang’ is BN supporter that come here to spread rumor on racist policy… U are not politicians, why so concerns for power…For me, I want justice, anti-currupt, rich, equality instead of say words for party like DAP/PAS/PKR/BN…
Form a unity school in full english if all policy is in equality even better, all children can pick whatever languange they like what we selected furing university live…As businessman, english is international language… If not, why majority of our YB, minister, high Datuk send their children to internation school and then go overseas… U think international school teach malays? This is definately because YB, minister, datuk is higher and international mindset…. why so stick on mandarin, malay, indians become main stream, even knowledgable minister don’t think so…
Let’s see this URL on what higher educated sultan perak said:
http://thestar.com.my/election/story.asp?file=/2008/3/10/election2008/20080310181928&sec=election2008
I am aware all people guy try to say here. The process to find a right new and relevant MB for PERAK. Ask to ammend the state law to give a way for non MALAY to become MB.
I understand and respect on what issue you are going to highlight here in this forum. I am worried this forum try to hide something but relactant to discuss something against thier wills. This consider CORRUPTas well – CORUPT MIND
When we try to put something or other issue that relevant to the interest of Malaysian like unity – they try to to turn thier ear deaf.
(ALL THIS INTERELATED – MB and UNITY is relevent. MB with one BAHASA for UNITY. Both requires PERLEMBAGAAN to be ammended.
You might sincere in this case (Probably not) but you pretend to not respone or comment want I have highlight in this forum. PLS ASK THE WEBMASTER to offer this topic for disscussion.ONE MALAYSIA ONE LANGUAGE IN ONE SCHOOL for UNITY. If you dare in sincere for Malaysian like in INDONESIA and THAILAND
I am a free man as well
Do you think audience outside there as smart as you or have the opinion similar to you. They will look at different perspective or interprete in different way.
The reality out there will react different way. Some people even you claim you are Profesional/NGO what ever name they use they also have some bias and interest in it
They just one people to discuss or stick to the topic to blackmail people mind about they want people to agree to them
Or the way the accept think like that. The word of corruption is used descrimanately here. Nothing good is mention after 50 years of MARDEKA.
Politician do not think as U think. Otherwise they sould have one PARTY instead.The idea is good but scary … in the long run. You are so ideal.
DAP promise to pay RM 6000 per farmily per year. Do you think every body come forward or sincere to say thier income is over RM 6000 per month —- this consider corruption as well when they submit the application.
I am not racist – I just to discuss openly. I have hundred of Chinese student – I am a collegue teacher.
PEJUANG
Dear EQUITY88
I have told here clearly.
You can learn what ever language you like or send to what ever university
But we must have one NATIONAL LANGUAGE TO UNITE PEOPLE RIGHT FROM PRIMARY SCHOOL IN ONE LANGUAGE – the relevant here is BM for MALAYSIAN irrspective what ever their mother tough language. You MENTERI BESAR WILL BE MY MENTERI BESAR
Kids can start minggling and to know each other right from age 6. Student/kids do not know what is racist unless braisntorm by their community/parent.Other languages can still be offered as other language such as foreign language in U
THINK ABOUT IT
I am do not stick myself to belong to any Party
Please do not branded me like that– that only your oppinion -
I am MALAYSIAN as well, but analysed thing in more critical way
PEJUANG
amigosh!
all this race talk… AGAIN! we are at the verge of new era… and YOUR MINDSET is still at the bottom of the pit!
STOP IT or you will be stupid by playing with the race card created by “be end” and “arm-no”.
YOU have selected your representative, meaning you have trust in them… but all this talk, is like YOU want YOUR OWN AGENDA to be thrusted forward and forced down the throat of others.
why don’t you LET YOUR REPRESENTATIVES CHOOSE who will be the CM? if you don’t thrust them, why choose them then? maybe, you want “be end” and in particular “arm-no” to start afresh another 135 and force down another NEP? enough is enough! don’t destroy this young partnership with this minor issue… the most important is, the coalition have a united says in this and whoever is elected, WE should give OUR SUPPORT as long as he stood by what had been promised!
let’s have a trust in our representatives. after all, they are all wise enough to work together for the good of rakyat! otherwise, this coalition is just like a house made of a deck of cards! and when it fall apart, “arm-no” will be smiling and said “look, i told you so!”
go on if you want this to happen!
Just simple questions
DO YOU AGREED THAT WE SUPOPOSED TO HAVE ONE LANGUAGE IN PRIMARY SCHOOL FOR ALL RACES but other languages will be teached as well
The students will share the same play ground and other facilities without descrimination.
Ho create SK, SRJK (C) and SRJK (T) – Beee NNNN and MCA, MIC and emmmm-nooo.
So remove this school just introduce SK sekolah Malaysia.
YOU ALL STILL BIAS. you talk about a new era in Malaysian POLITIC…. but to discuss about UNITY you just start branded me as you like
HIPOCRITE – like BN leader as well in certain issue
YOU ALL SIMILAR TO THEM – fail to convince me which you agenda.
I do not say or reject who should become our next MB .. Why you so worry about them – let them decide it.
I just to test all yu mind set —– LOOK VERY FANATIC
So the marks is – most people here is with CORRUPTED MIND. selfish mind. This how all of you to be fare to others and serve other with different oppinion out there
PEJUANG
Idealistically, the conception of “Barisan Rakyat”; “Bangsa Malaysia” or any social, political or economic agreements should transcend all races, religion, ethnicity etc…
The combined forces of PKR>PAS>DAP indeed propelled the historic win over the Malaysian 12th GE. One of the distinctive message delivered by the Rakyat to any ruling party/parties is to ensure that fairness be maintained in overall socio-economic-political structure of this new dawn Malaysia.
Why struggle to fight over the ego, pride or still maintaining the racial, power or religion issues when all (PKR>PAS>DAP) where fairness is the pivotal of the success of the 12th GE? The action of PAS to have the 3rd Mentri Besar of the five opposition states clearly indicate that PAS is still revolving around racial and religious issues. How can PAS fundamentally and sincerely willing to demonstrate its ideology of sharing power irrespective of race or creed?
Are the Indians going to be marginalized under the opposition states rule? Show the ruling party, BN that the loose political agreement of PKR>PAS>DAP where racial or religious would not be the basis of the political pact. Show to the Rakyat, PKR>PAS>DAP is willing share power – with the “Haves” and “Have Nots” The Rakyat is watching PKR>PAS>DAP in deliberating fairness for all whom have contributed the success.
No party is indispensable and they should be leader by example for the future generations of BANGSA MALAYSIA.!!!
@dual ties: “The action of PAS to have the 3rd Mentri Besar of the five opposition states…” is a typical mis-informed and twisted statement by the STUPID people in the prime news group… thinking that the rakyat are stupid enuf to swallow the bait…
@pejuang: there’s still a long fight to go. if you are a good fighter, you will realize that patient will win it all… there’s no point talking about idealistic “supposed to” statement etc. to put forward. those can only happen when the rakyat is ready to accept it… and that calls for a long process of conditioning and adaptation since we are ripened with devide-n-rule policy by be-end…
Friends… remember ‘PEOPLE POWER’!… this is just the beginning. We’re on the first leg and still have a long way to go to…
My take is to let the leaders decide on who’s going to be the next MB as they’re having a bigger picture on the overall situations and I believe the current sentiments and opinions are merely speculative in nature and just based on what if scenario.
Eventhough I understand the sentiments, but as of now, based on facts, the Undang2 Tubuh still applies and in order to change, it’ll require 2/3 majority. Practically we don’t have the nos to change that. So why’s the debate!…
We’ve shown to the BN what the people wants… and that’s much much more important… Let’s follow the system and once Malaysian people are ready, the system can alway be amended and we’ve got 5 years to do it. Don’t expect any drastic changes overnight as the consequences is hard to predict.
… Now we realise it is not easy to form a government with people with different background.
BN has managed to unite their party for the last 50 years when they govern Perak. There are many trade-off need to be done to suit each party.
Are we willing to Give-and-Take to achieve the common mission? If BN can do it, why not us?
Let us share the cake that keep on growing, rather than fighting on the cake that is shrinking. Let us start thinking to win in the next 13th election by working together from now.
…. so who should be the MB? …. it is not a simple math 1+1=2. Many parameters has to be considered. Not only among the wining party, but also the enemy strategy.
Remember, wrong decision can lead fatal injuries to the BA for another 50 years …
Sayonara.
Dear all,
Our plight has been answered by GOD. Lets hope BA will fullfill their promises to the Rakyat. Let us together give them our fullest support.
On the other hand, lets hope PAS (the party we supported solely because we wanted to show BN our dissatisfaction) will not take advantage and promote the islamic law. We hope at all times, they will be sensitive to all races needs, religious activities, etc.
The same goes for DAP and PKR. Hope all parties will be united and give out the BEST of them to the RAKYAT.
Looks like the discussions here have gone beyond CM matters to schools and the likes.!!!
Anyway, it’s sort of confirmed that either the rep from PKR or PAS would be our next CM. In a way, I rather prefer PKR, which I personally think would not be too drastic in his/her ideology as to the setup of an Islamic State, which I’m sure most Perakians would not prefer to have in their midst. We vote for a more conducive state, where mere citizens like us can earn a decent living ( if not make big bucks!! ), can go everywhere we like without Syariah officers tagging at hindsight ( no offence). and to show BN how dissatisfied we are of their egoistic policies which never seem to benefit the rakyat, other than themselves. ( corruption ). In a way we don’t have a choice in our selection, for its either BR or BN.
But I’m pretty sure that for the next 4 years, the BR people won’t dissapoint us mere voters, for they have every intention of winning another major victory 4 years from now. They , at the moment would not play on racial issues and will try their utmost best to win voters heart and mind. Just keep our fingers really crossed they succeed , so all of us would live in a state and country with more transparency and less corruption ( no corruption state- ultra clean state would be near impossible to achieved) , A change for the better!!
Ni apa hal sampai ke isu sekolah pulak ni? Jauh lari topik.
And, to be honest, I don’t really care whether you are Chinese, Indian or Malay. I am not interested in ethnicity.
But thank you all for your comments. Some of the above are very interesting ideas and I do find them very useful for what I plan to do. Thanks again!
Actually until today 5th generation of Malaysian born here, still don’t know why we want to select corrupt minister instead of capable MB like Khalib(Selengor, maybe spell wrongly)…
If assume Dr. Mahatir or Lee Guang Yeow(Singapore) or Gandan(Father of India) come from DAP at Perak MP….no matter they are Malays, Chinese, or Indians…why rejected them if they are so capable to become MB or even PM…Instead of u want a MB like past BN Selangor MB to suck our little money.
If we are highly international mindset like Anwarr, we should look on ability not by their skin color and religious…like unbelievable USA.
Please take a look on what Anwar’s said(youTube below) on multi-racial policy line on this YouTube…
And don’t forget that even majority population of chinese in Singapore still have a indians finance minister…why? because he is more capable than others, Singapore so success because they want A++ people to become minister no matther what races it is…
We are not politicians, why u are so care about races become condition in selection MB, no money will go into u and my pocket either…
*Funny issue/reality: half highly educated Malays support Anwar ideology, half Malays/Chinese/Indians from PAS and DAP still concerns to stability and racist…Really funny, as a perakians most concerns should focus on oil price, inflation, peace, crime, equality, money…not the power of politicians. Nothing to do with us.
Anwarr’s YouTube about ‘equality’:
Hong Kong: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIOtsKSKsvo&NR=1
Equality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDSwy6YWEqk&feature=related
Reformasi history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCIZo4FPAEI&feature=related
One fact that will 100% supported by all ethnic(Malay,Chinese,Indians) in Malaysia is Sultan Azlan Shah is higher educater person, and his son(regent) is studying at USA Harvard university(most democratic nation)…Their decision no doubt will be democratic and wise decision.
**Please have a deep look on Anwar ideology on equality after 6 years prison, never ever influence by old BN/Japan/British ideology in divide-n-conquer policy and racist mechanism…Beware on BN control media, some news might be rumour from them…
Thanks everyone for many fantastic pro and corn idea. Please keep in mind that highly educated (canselor UM last time), and USA Harvard graduate Regent(son of Perak Sultan) is talented and democratic in handling this issue. They might not thinking in the ways of us…
my dear friends… please don’t be carried away with the issue of ‘who is going to be perak’s new MB’. it is not the MB alone who will administer the state. it is the collective duty of the Ruler (sultan), MB and EXCO members. EXCO members can comprise of YB from different parties (PAS, DAP & PKR). analyse the state’s constitution carefully on this issue, so that we does not fall to the provocator’s trap easily. people has given their trust to BA to administer the state. now, lets continue to support them. it is not who is the MB, but what they as a state government can do and contribute to the rakyat, regardless of races and religion.
Dear All,
Pls be reminded that every individual has he/she own thinking, some Chinese will say MP must be from DAP, and some say no, just follow the legislation. The Indian and Malay will say the same. Why are we fighting for? Just only the MB or we shall thinking a bigger pic? If we can lives together, work togrther, voted the same party and made the history of Malaysia, why still argue about the MB of Perak, let the party’s leaders and Sultan decide, they are the professional and can think 100 times further than you and me. For me, a drastic change is not advisable as this time only the beginnig, no matter what race to be the MB, some ppl will make noise. I believe the opposition can do a good job as we all can see from the election, not from the result, but the candidates, is 1 BA to 1 BN. This is a mutual agreement among the opposition and proof that they already working together in order to make a bigger change.
Hi
I’m a Perakian living in Kelantan.
Pls we all had given our mandate to the BA or Barisan Rakyat, Lets cont giving our TRUST to our BA-wise,fair,credible leaders. No good in harping racial issues here, (by insisting that a Chinese or India must be the Cm, we’re being racial..)
Be it Chinese,indian or Malay as our CM, we must be united n support the decision made by our elected representatives. Dont fall into BN’s trap..
(W.Saiful shouldnt have started this issue in the fisrt place…) Sorry,
Lets DAP takes the PERAK CM so that peoples will thing that malaysia is a democracy country not like what BN’s season ” ONLY those race can be CM”. Break it & make everyone whose eligible to host the post…
I really amazed that there are many mature true voices from fellow Perakians. I have gone through some rational comments from young Perakian political analyst and i do agree on comments given by Wan Saiful. Today is really a challenge and task for us to prove of heart for a change in both in our mindset and vision for the better of Malaysia. The party that sweeps the most state seats should be given preferences by the other two co-supporters party to be appointed as MB for Perak. It is not about constitutional rights or due to ethnic reasons. It is purely to reflect the heart or aspiration of the new era of “bangsa Malaysia” that eagerly wanted a change in our current political system. A new mindset of political system that do not bound to racial or ethnic issues. It is depicts the game of a “monopoly”, winner takes all…this is a simple endorsed rules mandate by the rakyat of Perak. If this so called new DAP MB is no good, all of us will definitely expect a real kick-out of his political arena in 4 years to come on the next election. Forget about political interest but forward the perakian interest.
I hate and sad to say it but some of us are still thinking of it….they put “racial” as a concern despite looking for growth in economics,etc.
I’m really sad to see my fella friends regardless of indians,chinese, malays who lost track of contact as they could not secure a good job in Perak as the opportunity was darn limited.
Perakian…we need to tell ourselves, we want a better Perak that can compete with Penang & Selangor as one of the industrial economic giants in Malaysia. Anyone has any idea of bringing this message to Raja Nazrin Shah to consider this aspect? Call these so called potential candidates to come out with realistic proposal into developing Perak into a fruitful economics states in these 4 years…
Please forgive me for my commnets, might a bit sensitive and rude:
After summarize from many forum & blog:
Majority conservative chinese mindset still stay of our grandfather age(1957), almost all of them said: too radical a change, istiadat malayu, majority melayu state…
Nevertheless, conservative Malays said they will ignore equality in this case, cause minority can still become MB, only because of pre-independent act(grandfather age act). Even though Sultan can passby this act, oso none of them is saying so.
Then, conservative Indians almost 100% said, they need a Indians MB or else will not vote for BR(Barisan Rakyat) again on next election.
Equality38 = Equality on 08 March 2008 maybe currently is still a dream in at least half of Malaysian population. I admit might be a long path to move on. But what I emphasize on conservative Chinese, Malays, Indians is: Even though is is a dream/ideology concept of equality: why we are not chaning our mindset, and still stick on racist and religion where is under our pre-independent mindset. As a excellent company like Genting, Maxis, Digi, etc… u think a excellent profitable company should pick a CEO only based on their skin and religion… How’s they response to the stock investor? A company or a government should profit and best benefit to their supporter(share investor and public), only then Malaysia have strong competitive to compete in globalize evolution nowadays.
This is so called AGM for democracy and equality.
Go to check on Bursa Malaysia KLSE stock market, then u will find different among GLC(Government link company) company and internationl profitable company. Observe their losses % after election.
Even nowadays, many public listed company desire and looking for privatisation of their listed companies status.
Profit and benefit for (public Malaysian / stock investor) is the only way out in this competitive world. We should think in company mangement mindset in nation government management, not our grandfather age mindset.
there should be no special preference based on RACE or RELIGION, NO NO NO NO NO NO . WHY CAN’T SOME PEOPLE JUST GET IT! SPECIAL PREFERENCE ONLY FOR HUMAN BEINGS WHEN COMPARED TO ANIMALS. ALL ARE EQUAL ALWAYS.THE DIFFERENCE IS HOW MUCH YOU CONTRIBUTE.WHY MUST SOMEONE BE STOPPED BASED ON RACE AND RELIGION WHY WHY WHY WHY???? WHY DO SOME OF US BEHAVE LIKE HOW CATS AND DOGS DO.
Radical for change? Do u all think other nation will wait for us to gradually change!?
Let me express a true senario after visit Brunei:
A)Their government allowed every Brunei citizens can apply a land/a govern build house once for free in life.
B)Almost 100% product import from overseas like MY, HK, Indo, Sg…Only mineral water is produced by them.
C)No factory and industrial, no foreign investment allowed except those essential liveing like ASTRO TV, Foreign mobile network, Electric….(this is so called conservative)
D)No doubt now, salary is a lot higher than Malaysia because of Petroleum. And their honour Sultan is trying their best in late 10 years t build up their nation to no longer depends 100% on petroleum(20 years left)…But, do u think other nation will wait for u…too late, after 20 years u will see how Brunei faded out from the global history.
*If conservative people, still want to live like BN frog and past Brunei mindset: then plz wait what happens when Malaysia Petroleum no more…Maybe even Myanmar oso passing us then…Sad story for next Malaysian generation no matter Chines, Malays, Indians.
From Star, and others media: Majority citizens are supported knowledgable Sultan Perak to decide our nation future.
In reply to a person on this thread, I am not aware of any “hak ketuanan Melayu” in our Constitution. The Constitution gave certain special rigthts to Malays to protect them from being overwhelmed by the other races economically during the time of Independence – but it does not give Malays the right to “mastery” over the country over and above the other races.
No more division of this country on the basis of ethnicity – we have had enough of that neo-colonialist nonsense perpetrated by the British to divide and conquer and barriers like that will only kill this country in the end.
Every child in this country regardless of race or religion should be entitled to dream of being MB or even PM one day. Until that day is here, we are not a nation but merely a collection of individuals or factions jostling for a bigger piece of the pie, and that way is the path of destruction and is every demagogue’s fantasy.
On the issue of who is to be MB, in the end, it is the Sultan of Perak’s decision because 3 candidates are given to him to choose, is this not right? So whoever he chooses will be MB. end of story.
Then during the first sitting of the state legislature, the first law they should vote to change is this stipulation that only a Muslim Malay can be MB of Perak.
Jelutong boy, I disagree vehemently that Perakshould haev a Malay MB just because Malays have the majority in Perak in terms of population. Perak should have an MB voted in regardless of race nor religion – period. If BR decides on the basis of racial lines, what difference is it from BN? What happened to the promises of change and equality? Or is PKR and DAP’s words just so much paper pulp? Is PAS’ ideology that race is not a consideration to be borne out in the end? BR must be true to what they stand for, or it is just “same old” “same old”.
My point is simple – if Barisan Rakyat is to mean anything at all, if it is to be a credible alternative, it has to start from Day One with a new way of doing things and a new way of doing politics. It is a way that is true to their espoused values.
Unless I am mistaken, PKR & DAP are ostrensibyl built on the foundation of among others racial equality. PAS’ ideology is religious and not racial in nature – they are not founded to promote the interests of a particular race.
All that I am asking for is for them to be true to their word :-
(1) Stop all this “pragmatic” rationalizations – “let us change later” “let us do it the old way for fear of bringing the wrath of this raceor that race”. These are all thinking that will inevitably lead back to the status quo, the same status quo that is strangling us to death.
(2) With humility, straightforwardness and resolve, just select the candidate who is the best for the job in integrity and leadership REGARDLESS OF RACE OR RELIGION.
(3) Do all you can to bring downt he racial and religious walls that is carving our country apart. Learn to love dissimilarity and plurality, be comfortable with the fact that your neighbour dissagres with you agreeeably.
(4) lead and govern the states that have been entrusted to you in unity and wiothout bringint in your own narrow ideologies and agendas.
(5) administer the states in competence and in complete innocence and integrity.
Barisan Rakyat will truly be Barisan Rakyat in 5 years’ time if they can do this.
The reason why BN is a blight on this country is that it perpetuates race based politics. When we are obsessed with race, we will inevitably be racist.
Hello – race is not a genetic concept, as far as genetics are concerned, race does not exist. What divides us is preferred language, values, experiences, foods, religion, etc. But if we instead retrain ourselves and our children to celebrate and love diversity, to have the ability to stand for what we and not the group believes in…the sky’s the limit.
We as Malaysians have to stop thinking of ourselves as Malay, Indian or Chinese or etc. We are all Malaysians. It is up to us – not our leaders – to start thinking of ourselves as Malaysians first and foremost. Then our leaders will have to follow our tune and do the same, and then wicked men and women trying to disunite us for personal gain will fail and be exposed for what they are.
At the moment, we are a sorry excuse for a nation. And it is our fault for allowing ourselves to be led down all these blind alleys. This can be a great nation. It is up to us to make it so.
It is not the matter of PAS or PKR! Don’t under estimate the situation. The situation occurs because of the Perak Law of Constitution (UNDANG-UNDANG TUBUH NEGERI PERAK). So please aware of this matters. I am one of the Barisan Rakyat supporters and a Malay. And i dun mind any non-Malay Muslim to rule the state as it is clear that the rule should be amended due to the current politic situation! But please the condemning PAS or PKR if you know nothing about Perak Law of Constitution. Let us lay the decision to the wise Perak Sultan, Sultan Azlan Shah.
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It is not the matter of PAS or PKR! Don’t under estimate the situation. The situation occurs because of the Perak Law of Constitution (UNDANG-UNDANG TUBUH NEGERI PERAK). So please aware of this matters. I am one of the Barisan Rakyat supporters and a Malay. And i dun mind any non-Malay Muslim to rule the state as it is clear that the rule should be amended due to the current politic situation! But please the condemning PAS or PKR if you know nothing about Perak Law of Constitution. Let us lay the decision to the wise Perak Sultan, Sultan Azlan Shah. And please do remember that PAS is not a religious party that upholds ethnicity as its fundamental in Malaysia cause the real Islam focuses on EQUALITY! Thus, can I simply made a prejudgment that DAP is a racial-base party then??????? Although, it is obviously seen; however; as a Malaysian, I never ever condemned any other Malaysians right, so please the new Malays have had opened their mind to except this yet please broaden your perspective towards this matter. So please dun talk like BN members…….
Ahmad, Clearly BN control media like Utusan and others had different story. Please don’t only read own language, please read oso new straits time, star, malaysiakini, chinese newspaper. Then u know Sultan have power to select anyone without depends on racist of muslim or Malays… Please study act carefully, I had read Utusan tuesday article, and I knew they don’t talk on Sultan Power regarding MB selection in state act. Don’t influence by some BN control newspaper, just read as many as u can especially on independent newspaper.
*Beside Perak Law of Constitution, Sultan have power to select multi-races no matter come from Malays, Chines, Indians. Nobody is saying rumor on DAP/PKR/PAS…but just many people suddenly forget what is equality and democracy. This is my voters point of view, not from politicians view.
I am a little chinese citizens and don’t have any religion. I just hate conservative mindset no matter what is his races and religion and nationality. I want peace and equality.
Again: Equality is not slogan but action… If u see what happens in Parlimen from YouTube, u will now how many rubbish there. If in that case, I have fully confidense that I oso can be promote as YB, at least I won’t sleep and dare to talk (lol)…
This most probably be my last post here:(hopefully no comments to reply)
A little JOKE for everyone especially conservative thinking chinese, Malays, Indians.
This is last, and hope not causing any sensitive feeling, I emphasis on ‘conservative’ people from all races. This joke story is about ‘Equality’
A poor little students from estate, his father and mother tell him/her study hard…study hard…so that next time won’t get poor like them. Well, he obey and start read, analyze day and night… until eventually he got full A…one of the top excellent students.
He, his friend, his parents, his relative was so happy…even can shake hand with minister…He thought dreams had come through after long time effort…If not lawyer, doctor, at least a engineer waiting him in Malaysia with full scholarship.
He has only academic mindset for long time, SUDDENLY he realized no scholarship, 1st choice not only based on academic but oso need based on ur sports talented, leadership, limited scholarship is left(quota)….
Then, suddenly academic-mindset of him suddenly think of politic….Where’s equality? If I lazy, then is a punishment, but I score full A….why still need to go overseas to achieve ambition? Why other country top university offer scholarship, not Malaysia? Is it what BN say ‘Eqaulity’ for? Under this policy, he don’t want to beg for politicians help.
Eventually dreams broken, he go overseas, and he do not back to serve nation, many say it betray nation, but who knows the fact behind him? (This is what happens in this 50 years).
Politicians say: Limited scholarship, quota…
In politicians heart said: U are ‘Men in Black’…that’s the reason, is nothing to do with ur capabillity.
‘Men in black’….if their BN newspaper true slogan, where got equality?
**Equality is action, not just a BN slogan**
Bye bye and thanks everyone for pro and corn opinion…wednesday will show the result and in future we no longer meet together.
I admit this post is out of scope, please forgive me to give this true story…Equality really an ideology in long long future…Hopefully Earth not yet crash…thanks everyone.
Assalamu’alaikum
Wan, rasanya dah panjang dah diskusi ttg MB Perak ni. Sekarang apa kata enta komen ttg adakah Pak Lah patut jadi PM walaupun ramai pimpinan UMNO yg rasa sebaliknya. Adakah patut Pak Lah rushing terus jumpa Agong mengenepikan protokol sepatutnya. Itu pun if you have a gut to critic him/UMNO openly as much as you do to PAS and BA…Thanks.
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Racial based election pattern still prevail in US – even after 200 independent
In Malaysia religeous and racial based still prominant inspite this comming election result – unexpected event
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Amin,
We have received articles about PM maintaining his position. I think this is the best wise decision for him to make at this moment. It is not because of his arrogance of not admitting defeat compared to Koh Tsu Koon. But it is merely a decision that he needs to consider, if he were to step down as PM, the stock market will even go down further….. and it would even drop further than 123points on CI in the share market like Mon…. then all the foreign investors or government related projects will go “kaput”….then barisan rakyat will be blamed of bring down the countries economy…
He must think of a plan…a plan to gracefully step down..and definitely not in such drastic manner as after all he still needs to respond to his “defeat” in this 12th general election…but before that, please give this guy a chance to aty least try to do something…after the awakening of the political tsunami…..one of thing that i dont really like is there is still control of media on reporting news to one side..”pro-government”….we, with new barisan rakyat mentality demands of truth not some dramatic foolish news just to entertain readers….
If you ask me…if the PM insist on this own principle by listening to his “young adviser”…i can tell you…the whole BN colony will go extinct in just few years to come….one of the thing that im wondering is why the heck govt still need to form an independence committee to find out root cause of this recent political defeat…come on and please dont waste time as the answer is pretty obvious…millions of youngsters and rational voters are fed up with the current economical, social-politics that we are bound by ethnics groups since 1957….we want to see real economic growth and harmonization throughout all the people of malaysian, so that none of us are left out or being sideline from the overall development in regardless of states or country level. One race is wealthy and the other race suffers will not bring any good do not prosper a country…as it will bring more social ill matters like robbery,corruption, running illegal business,rape,etc….
Someone say or blame Anwar for his political agenda to sweep control from BN in a form of revenge..i would say, wouldn’t all of us admit that he played a very important role in opening the eyes of most of our west malaysian? The way we look at our country now is different…. we are aware is the rakyat the dictates the government and not the other way round…if you ask me, when Anwar was being interviewed on the subject of him going bek for a parlimentary seat…you can feel his ” wisdom”…he says he wants to make sure that Opposition forms and runs the state government well before he comes to parliamentary seat….let us say that he is prudence on his plans that can work for all….Who cares who is leader in future or his plan to become PM…if the Opposition coalition formula works….then we will know BN culture is no longer valid in all his political agenda…
In this educated society,I strongly believe no one would like to fight for his or her own racial interest….most of us wants to see all the rakyat to prosper in all the fields or sectors…when all of are educated and rational in strive for the betterment for all…the coalition group of UMNO, MCA, MIC,SUPP,etc will no longer be valid..one party for all…all are free from racial political polarisation…No more ” indians community got problem, MIC go and fix it”….or chinese community got problem, MCA go and fix it….come on we should declare….” We have problem, and we feel heart pain and we will fix it together as one political body… Federal/State constitution is just some phrases or words written in papers…it is meaningless, it only serves as a historical records to remind all that Malaysia was started off in such manner since 1957….world changes, people changes, we no longer look at own communities, we look at the “ecosystem” as in whole….
ya..I also think they should let the DAP leader to be a mentri besar…
demokrasi mah..choose what the rakyat wan…
TRUELY, BN HAD SUCCESFULLY MAKE US ‘GADUH-GADUH’ OVER THIS MATTER. AS FOR ME,NOW IT IS IN THE HAND OF THE SULTAN OF PERAK.
i’m tired of this racial thing. let us unite. be a true malaysia. we are fellow human being living in one place, Malaysia. If we still ‘gaduh-gaduh’ what will we gain from it.
GOD SAVE OUR LAND
LAWS BASED ON RACE ARE WRONG.IF SOMETHING OR SOMEONE STANDS BY THIS LAW THEN THEY ARE WRONG.PERAK MB MUST COME FROM MAJORITY AND THE MAJORITY IS DAP.SO DAP MEMBER MUST BE ALLOWED TO BECOME PERAK MB.OTHERWISE OUR INDEPENDENCE FROM THE BRITISH DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING.
PERAKIAN
The idea discuss here in this forum here is very ideal here
Outside there – Polarisation still obvious. Ipoh town still dominated by chinese community, Malay working in Gov (DEB plan)
The Malay is handicape – This the only Tanah Melayu –
We still afraid what happen in Thailand (Malay in southern Thailand was marginalised and try be irredicate slowly – by evolution process)
What happen in Plaestian — Israeil still insist to built more house in Pleasitenian land
Similar in Malaysia, especially IPOH. Chinese developer bult house beyond the majority Malay can buy. So Malay is feacfully will be marginilized. That way DAP undi coming most from urban areas that offer many seat. Malay majority area is very big size, but number of seat is small.
DAP take advantage on this. We afraid when china become big like in Singapore, Thailand and Indonesia they start to SOMBONG and monopoly everything.
Malay will be eridicate slowly by ideal Malay
Singapore apply ISRAEL in thier policy how to overpowered Malay majority in Singapore – they split Malay so there are no area with malay Majority.
This is nightmere if Malay. We like the idea but we have to be careful.
There state CHINA rule by CHINESE, INDIA by INDIAN
JAPAN by JAPANESE
ENGLAND by ENGLISH how about
MALAYSIA (TANAH MELAYU BEFORE) – MALAYSIA by MELAYU
The rest still live in harmony
Thank
http://thestar.com.my/election/story.asp?file=/2008/3/12/election2008/20080312174629&sec=Election2008
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/79710
That’s why we called democracy and equality dead in Malaysia…End of story for equality. As what I mentioned earlier, maybe Earth crash oso never happen equality.
However, a new topic should occur: Let’s we all Malaysians(Malays, Chinese, Indians) BN and BR supporter to keep on eye on different policy and implementation of state government management in Selangor, Penang, Perak, Kedah, Kelantan and other BN rule state to see the different within this 5 years.
No need racist arguing, just …just…and just… compare as an highly educated Malaysian to observe from economic, social, politic, cooperation, promise, crime, efficiency, transparancy, inflation, religion, and etc….
Then, wait our next open minded generation to prove multiracial policy the only way out to survive Malaysia…End of election story, back to original life.
On this generation, I do believe:
(even though Sultan have his own pressure from BN and thinking)
***Equality is action not slogan === my dreaming ideology***
(2/3 Muslim will change the act, hey, highly educated Malaysians, don’t dreaming again…Senario is just like: Ur father is extremely rich, he give u RM20,000 per month, even tough u are highly talented and democracy-oriented, but do u think u will reject it, u won’t even to protest (change the act in same senario) ur father money. this is reality of so-called ‘Equality’ and ‘Democracy in Malaysia’
Bye bye everyone, see u all on next election and don’t forget to observe policy among this 5 states.
***Equality is dream in MY, like what BN slogan mentioned***
Forget one idea to express:
The reason why candidate not from PKR but PAS at multi-racial population state:
In case of PAS implement Hudud is multi-racial population state that force all non-muslim changing life style and religion effect:
Maybe oso is Sultan Perak’s and BN strategies to force Perak non-muslim(Chinese and Indians) especially those trader and businessman to migrate to other state or country like Penang or Singapore…so that next election it will vote go back to BN and forever Muslim and MB power act been protected.
Let’s me do a final prediction on perak’s next election evolution: Populations in chinese and indians(only non-muslim) will migrate to other state and country for business. This is because their wishes to select either PKR or DAP candidate not been successed, and they scared of business and islamic regulations that force changes in their normal life style(like hotels in kedah already change their business model-u can see in newspaper).
How about pitty DAP? just like 1999(reformasi and joining of PAS and DAP, while PAS strength to build Islamic nation)…Until today no policy on Penang is strength on religion, they focus on demolish DEB and offer transparency contract auction and all contractor bid and details will be upload to internet portal for public voters. Compare to Kedah, what u can is charge of water, implement hudud to forcee non-muslim obey their ideology with no choice.
Even not DAP majority seat been approved due to act and Sultan, why not a PKR been rule in this state, this clearly stated that Sultan wants talented people to rule, and oso want muslim, and further important is next election DAP supporters(those haven’t migrate from Perak, like what happens last time at Kelantan and Trengganu) will foresure vote BN instead of DAP with the reason: No doubt many conservative chinese at Perak will said: Why vote DAP? U see, now we have to change business model, change life style…BN better still, even corrupted but days move on as usual.
I can predict on next election on Perak state: BN will be the most winners if they change corrupted attitude, while PKR (where many candidates and supporters from Chines oso) will have better chances than PAS. If not that’s means the races population in Perak already similar to Kelantan and Trengganu, then PAS has oppurtunity to implement its hudud islamic ideology.
After my nonsense prediction, maybe many people already thought I am a racist ideology and BN supporters. Nvm, I am no a politicians and not even stay at Perak, on selfish point of view: nothing is related to my normal life, and all above is my personal prediction on next election result…BR supporter, please don’t blame me for this statement, it is only perdiction. Think wisely.
Perak sultan decision that not select PKR moderate MB instead of PAS islamic MB, already show signal that he want non-muslim to get out of Perak state especially those businessman like entertainment field.
*Politicians world of power really not understand by a little democracy-oriented people like me*
***Please take note that migration, life-style changing, dissatisfaction, voters kick DAP is not my intension…I just do some prediction…and not rumour, hope not caught by ISA indeed…:)
Maybe even BN supporter thanks me for this rumor….Pitty democracy-oriented Malaysia…Hai….Like what Anwar’s say: support indians: become hindraf, support Malays: Islamic ideology, support Chinese: betray Malays…..
But one important thing many people might had left out is: Anwar said he want a multi-racial policy line, then suddenly com out PKR candidate to chase for MB even though minority…. I guess PAS leader even better in keeping his promise, PAS leader won’t simply talk one statement and implement another statement after election. However, why bernama news and malaysiakini before said PAS leader love to compete MB even tough in minority result? is it a rumor from BN? who knows…SMS don’t believe, no record on it…I love peace and timid, hope not caught by ISA indeed.
Everyone no matter BN or BR supporter: (Accept wisely and generously is only choice for us in this election, don’t express violent because democracy is waiting us in next generation)
Its nothing to do with PKR, PAS or even DAP ideology…U can see non-muslim MB be supported by many leader from PKR and PAS, while many DAP supporter want to select a muslim MB for radical change reason.
Some supporters might want blame why politicans like DAP promise that no islamic regulations implement in perak state is not been realized, and some blame of why PKR leader like Anwar say multi-racial during ceramah but end of push PKR candidate to get MB, while those conservative PAS supporter is joy and may temporary forget about democracy and equality cause support by Sultan and act as excuse to further demolish populations % of all races in Perak….
Of course, all above is my prediction, I am not God and Allah that can represent and know what other’s think of especially voters. Deny of my prediction is welcomed, just I sympathy on people in equality dream especially Perak citizens. But I do respect some leader from PAS DAP and PKR that stand for ‘equality’ and ‘democracy’ even though evolution needs long time to go…
Thx everyone, please critic me if too racist, and my mistake in prediction, if can I can’t wait to see what happens in next election…(Some might say I am not optimistic, too emotional, and ideology-oriented….nvm I am not politicians, no need to support my prediction, just don’t treat me as BN frog that’s enough).
WE ALL SUFFERED BUILDING MALAYSIA.INDIANS,CHINESE,MALAYS…ALL BUILT MALAYSIA.SO NO ONE SHOULD BE PUT ASIDE BY ANY RELIGION OR ANY RACE.WHY ARE SOME PEOPLE SO SELFISH AND AFRAID?IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU OR SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOUR RELIGION?CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THE CHINESE AND INDIANS DON’T BELONG TO CHINA OR INDIA.BOTH COUNTRIES DON’T CARE ABOUT MALAYSIAN CHINESE OR MALAYSIAN INDIANS ANYMORE.THIS IS OUR TANAH AND WE WILL FIGHT FOR OUT RIGHTS TO BE A TRUE MALAYSIAN REGARDLESS OF RACE OR RELIGION.
things is like a mess now. ppl that hit on LKS blog must be BN ppl. dont trust too much of them. sure some information that amissed to us. if not why raja petra aslo so suprised with the PAS as mb? palace conservativeness? i hope DAP all member will go behind electing DAP member as mb? non-bumi also dont so stupid hitting out before u all understand much. ITs not bout race. its bout righteous. AS long as DAp it will be ok irrespective of race. The king must waive the mb condition in this case. clear cut. since the 3 party say before election tat majority will lead and choose mb. dont tell me they havent think bout this rule of malay and muslim as mb requirement. so all must honour. submitting 3 name is just actually to show a easier way for the palace and coalition to gone down well with malay voter especially the BN. this is to shut them up when decision is make fr king. the palace should not take the goodwill of DAP that mean to save the peace, and turn the palace themself to hero.
Hmm.. I quite surprised by Lim Kit Siang’s reaction regards on the MB Perak.. In the Perak constitution, in stated that the MB must be a Malay Muslim.. So, this is by far is not a statement from the PAS.. In other case, it is the choice of the DYMM Perak should all the Perak’s citizen considered..
FYI, the Barisan Rakyat or Alternative Front should hold on together because the BN will seek a loophole so that they can regain Perak..I know that DAP hold more seat than PKR and PAS, yet the BA should discuss this more detail so that the ceremony will be smooth as a silk..
Still, in my opinion, I think it should not be a big problem for DAP because they will hold 7 of the state exco which I heard on the TV3..
They can still dominate the state consult with majority of their supporter.. Last but not least, I hope the BA stick together so that the evil coalition of BN will scattered eventually..
In retrospect of the commitments, respect and honour in inducing the Malaysian Rakyat to give a clear mandate to the coalition parties – DAP/PKR/PAS for the state of Perak.
What has really gone wrong with the gentlemen agreement and concensus of the parties involved. The appointment of PAS candidate to be the MB is a clear indication of favourtism or an ulterior motive for a political agenda plot against the Malaysian Rakyat whom have the coalition the mandate?
If I am the leader of PAS, for certain I would not allow the credibility of a religious party, if it is religion-based party, be mired with inequality when PKR won 7 seats and DAP with 18 seats. PAS just demanded to have the third MB in Malaysia. PAS….come on….learn how to play fair & just politics. PAS has all its prerogative to reject the MB and be generous when the integrity of the party is compromised.
I guess Wan Saiful is imitating Lim Kit Siang’s attitude….
Malay warrior.. I am a Muslim but your attitude is sarcastic..
We as a majority Malay Muslim should show a good example to the minority..
But anyway, YB LKS should not defied our Perak’s Sultan.. Defying the Sultan is same as defying Islam and Malay Muslim..
Hoping that the new dawn still exist..
Just heard the news about the Perak MB. I support and respect the Sultan of Perak’s decision to appoint Nizar Jamaluddin as MB. I really don’t see what’s the big hoo-ha about race and religion. A non-Muslim Chinese is also susceptible to corruption, etc. (About having a Malay Muslim MB, you might want to read up the historical context before judging the constitution as “racist” and whatnot.)
I’m disappointed with DAP. As Omar mentioned, DAP seats weren’t won by only DAP supporters, but PKR and PAS supporters, too (there weren’t any DAP vs PAS / DAP vs PKR seats that were contested). The point is that the people of Perak voted against BN. If DAP wants to lead, it should not have shown (initial) support of PKR and PAS, then later insist on its own way. Sadly, when it comes to the crunch, DAP doesn’t seem to want to co-operate.
My dua sen.
p/s to Malay Warrior: Please bersabar … Not everyone understands the place and significance of the Sultan in Malay culture/tradition. But please also note that although I am Chinese, China is this very, very strange land–I can’t even speak the language of that country fluently.
I am trying to keep this civilised. If you don’t want your comment(s) to be removed, please do not swear.
And, there is no point changing your name to give the impression that the swear words were written by different people. Your IP address is the same regardless of whatever name you put down.
TO WAN SAIFUL
DO WHAT U HAVE TO DO … THIS IS WHAT U CALL CIVILISED BY REMOVE MY WORDS … COME ON .. THINK IT .. IF U ARE REALLY22 CIVILISED
Tanpa PKR & PAS ..siapalah DAP untuk membentuk sebuah kerajaan. Setakat menang 18 kerusi je, itupun bertanding 2 penjuru.
Kita mesti ingat, negeri Perak mempunyai raja (MELAYU) yang berdaulat dan mempunyai perlembagaan negeri nya sendiri.
Keputusan raja perlulah dihormati walaupun LKS dan ahli DAP lain tak bersetuju.
Mungkin ada ahli DAP nak cuba ganti tempat raja pulak suatu hari nanti???
p/s: cintai bahasa kebangsaan.
Sri Kandi,
I agree with you. Rakyat cannot defy DYMM Sultan Perak. It is in our perlembagaan and our semangat patriotik. But please do not put 100% believe at this moment and fall into on medias plot that are dominated by BN. It might not be 100% truth. The berita also stated that PKR is suprised with the announcement and not accepting the annoucement. This sounds like “muslihat” by anti-BA, u know what i mean….
How can state DAP chief and YB LKS have not communicated on this before submitting the candidates name to Raja Nazrin Shah? Any decision made by the sultan is out of respect and integrity. I believe the sultan will announce his reasons to rakyat of Perak on why he choosed PAS candidate later and not PKR or even DAP(if sultan has consider before).
I am very sad that Raja Nazrin made a choice that is far from what the people want.It is also sad that the state DAP agreed to this.More than the king, I believe in God and I know God will judge all injustice without considering race or religion.
Dear all, jangan gaduh-gaduh…la..kita sama-sama cari makan
di malaysia.
Sapa MB pun tak penting…MB & org politik jugak yg kaya.
BN ke BA sama je…semuanya nak kuasa. Rakyat jugak yg susah.
POLITIC = POWER.
When potilitians got power they will do anything.
DAP also can say slogan “JUST CHANGE” when they win election.
Like majority blogger said potilik control by UMNO / Malay
How about Malaysia Economy control by CINA ??
And now, DAP want combination of
POLITIC POWER + ECONOMY POWER = DUNIA ANDA PUNYA (DAP)
Think about that for malay & india.
IS THIS EQUAL TO ALL as mention by DAP??
Mana ade negara yg EQUAL TO ALL dlm dunia ni….
Got this from Harakahdaily with regard MB Perak background….quite interesting though…
His character is totally different from another Menteri Besar from PAS, eg Kelantan & Kedah Menteri Besar as well as Hj Abdul Hadi Awang…
I think he is the best choice,taking into consideration the current situation in Perak….I really salute Raja Nazrin on this matter.
Beliau merupakan lulusan Sarjana Muda Sains Kejuruteraan Mekanikal dari University Of Aston di Brimingham, United Kingdom. Sekembalinya ke tanahair, beliau bekerja di beberapa agensi kerajaan termasuk Jabatan Kerja Raya bahagian bengkel dan kuari, Perbadanan Pembangunan Bandar (UDA – Daya Urus), Perbadanan Pembangunan Pulau Pinang.
Sebelum dilantik menjadi Menteri Besar beliau merupakan Pengarah Urusan di beberapa firma swasta. Di luar negara pula beliau banyak menjalankan beberapa projek di beberapa buah negara, antara di Birmingham, United Kingdom, Zug Switzerland, Miano Italy, Bangkok Thailand, Sdyney dan Goldcoast Australia, Doha Qatar dan Tehran, Iran.
Keistimewaan beliau, walaupun lulusan dari luar negeri beliau mampu mengajar (buka kitab) di masjid-masjid dan suara-surau.malah beliau sendiri mampu mengelenggarakan ibadah kurban termasuk penyembelihan bintang kurban.
Di samping itu Haji Nizar juga selain boleh berbahasa Inggeris, ia juga boleh berbahasa Cina dan Tamil. Inilah Menteri Besar yang dikehendaki oleh rakyat, mampu mentadbir, berwibawa dan mempunyai pengetahuan agama dan boleh membaca khutbah jumaat. Perkenan Sultan Perak, Sultan Azlan Shah yang memilih Mohammad Nizar sebagai Menteri Besar Perak memang tepat, oleh itu semua pihak perlu akur dengan keputusan yang dibuat oleh Sultan Perak
My personal opinion,
with regard Lim Kit Siang statement,i think DAP fate to rule/become Menteri Besar of Perak as equal as to Datok Annuar Musa in Kelantan when he openly attack the Sultan of Kelantan.
I feel that this is the biggest mistake DAP have done in Perak.After Lim Kit Siang ‘slapped’ the Sultan of Perak,then he ask for apology…..
I can say,Palace of Perak will remember LKS word forever and this will give huge impact to DAP in Perak,big issue to be manipulate by BN in Perak.
‘Thank You Very MUCH’ YB Lim Kit Siang for the statement.
who are these people?
religious but greedy,
hypocrites who contribute so little,if any.
always afraid of other races,
uphold ridiculous and absurd rules,
talk without basis or substance,
champions among the weak,
oppress with subtlety,
no realization of shame,
rewards incompetency,
known globally to be stupid and lazy,
skin thicker then their head,
shows-off when there’s nothing to show,
inconsiderate to people of a different religion,
steals and considers it hard work,
who are these people?
Belom ape2, opposition party dah bergaduh nak fight kerusi MB. Perak kerajaan ber”Sultan”.. Tanah Melayu we call it before.. PLeaseeeeeee la korang opposition!
sy agree dengan tok gajah.. ape2 pun politic memang mcm ni, BN ke BA ke sama je.. masing2 ade agenda tersendiri…
“Like majority blogger said potilik control by UMNO / Malay
How about Malaysia Economy control by CINA ??
And now, DAP want combination of
POLITIC POWER + ECONOMY POWER = DUNIA ANDA PUNYA (DAP)”
Think about that Perakian! DAP just guna the “PKR+PAS+DAP” perikatan to win over the country..
Just stop the bullshit!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perak#Demography
The ethnic composition of the population was estimated in 2001 to be: Malay (1,101,105 or 53.68%), Chinese (643,129 or 31.35%), Indian (262,121 or 12.78%), Other (6,536 or 0.32%), Non-Citizen (38,345 or 1.87%)
since malay composition is 53.68%, it is wise enough to elect a MB among Malay ADUN,be it PKR or PAS or DAP [if they have Malay candidate]
whoever agree please put up your hands…
i must say… tat part of the constitution have to change…
FACT: DAP won 18/59 seats in Perak
FACT: BN won 28/59 seats in Perak
FACT: PAS and PKR together won 13/59 seats in Perak
FACT: DAP wants the MB and 8/10 EXCO posts
FACT: Perak consists of 53% Malays and 31% Chinese
OPINION (and possibly fiction):
the way i see it, nobody has the right to form a government, since nobody won more than half the seats… but barisan nasional has the most right, since it won most seats. perak should have another election instead.. <_<.. that is, if barisan rakyat cannot cooperate over this matter.
if DAP argues that since it won most seats and therefore it should get most EXCO portfolios as well as the menteri besar post, then the same logic should apply to BN representatives. remember, democracy is about representation, and it is not fair to exclude at all BN representatives from the state government. and it is not fair at all for DAP to monopolize the EXCO posts (53% malays in perak remember?)
and forget about changing the undang undang tubuh negeri perak. you still need the consent of the sultan (and the BN representatives votes of course), since the sultan is very powerful in his state.. he can just refuse the change. and i doubt he will consent the change after “uncle” kit’s statement was made public. he just made DAP look like a racist party and insensitive-towards-the-monarchy-institution party, and therefore, anti malay.
this problem would not have happened had the opposition form a formal coalition party to start with, agreeing on posts before the election, and set common policies. but i guess the members of “barisan rakyat” aren’t clever enough to contemplate this. the coalition is frail and weak, and i doubt they will go far.
personally i think DAP is the weakest link here, from 1969 until now, DAP has not changed its childish ways of looking at politics and other finer points of human relations. it’s all ranting and blaming and complaining and conquering game for DAP with no real regards of democracy and fair representation.
most heartfelt congratulations towards DAP and the opposition in general… -_-… seriously guys, you made a really good start impressing the rakyat you are claiming to represent.
what is the problem with perak menteri besar being a chinese.why cannot? is it because malay people are ganas and will start killing indian and chinese?is this what malays are…pengganas?then what does islam teach them? kill people of different religion?when you are in an accident do you wait for your own race to help you or do you seek help from anyone?if you cannot bring yourself to think that everybody is human then you are a barbarian and i’m sure malays don’t want to be recognized as barbarians.
dont be barbaric ,
Maybe one day chinese will argue about this too..they also should be considered to be a king..?? haha
used to be an immigrant….
it is immigrant dreams come true to be accepted as a citizen [JUS SOLI]…
as a citizen,they fighting to have equal rights on everything [closed one eye on Social Contract,don't want to bow down to Ketuanan Melayu/Kesultanan Melayu]….
they import their culture into tanah melayu,what else do we not have….gangster,underworld activities,prostitute,gambling,pig farm without permit…u can add more
it is not surprise if one day they want to topple Malay Monarchy as their ascendant already did to theirs long time ago……
are they asking for another 13th May…i bet they are not dare to do it again…
may i suggest Lim Kit Siang is J.W.W Birch wannabe…?
if a black man like barack obama can be president then why not a chinese sultan or a chinese king..maybe in 50 years time…because current people are still barbarians.
i choose LKS to be Yang Dipertuan Agong … hahahaha
Sedar la wahai melayu…
jgn terpinggir di tanah sendiri… Tanah Melayu.. all of these mencabar Kesultanan Melayu…
dont be barbaric,
Malays dont kills indian and chinese.. Please respect Ketuanan Melayu/ Kesultanan Melayu
Remember.. We call it Tanah MELAYU before
to Mr LKS … i like u .. bcoz u are chinese warrior just like me (malay warrior) .. see u soon in battle …
my appreaciation to MR SLAM
… talk about the habits of an immigrant ambitions
THE MAGIC WORDS OF MR SLAM ……
used to be an immigrant….
it is immigrant dreams come true to be accepted as a citizen [JUS SOLI]…
as a citizen,they fighting to have equal rights on everything [closed one eye on Social Contract,don’t want to bow down to Ketuanan Melayu/Kesultanan Melayu]….
they import their culture into tanah melayu,what else do we not have….gangster,underworld activities,prostitute,gambling,pig farm without permit…u can add more
it is not surprise if one day they want to topple Malay Monarchy as their ascendant already did to theirs LAND long time ago……
maybe malay can only survive with special laws like for retarded people
OMG….
You are guys are really insensitive at all..bringing the issues of MB Perak to a lenghty mails of racial sentiment. Please just respect the final decisions made by these opposition coalition and most importantly the Sultan. If you ask me, the sultan has made the wisest choice to put PAS candidate, and IR engineer who have seen the world with his outing business trip experience. Let us just give him a chance to prove himself that he is worth for the post.
I’m not trying to fight for any party in particular. What im hoping is that all of us put our rationality above all when making statement by not hurting other “races”….if you ask me, who cares whether i am a malay, chinese or indian? I am born in this home land called Malaysia. When i die, i will die in this land in my mother nature. I could not bring any other belongings from this world into different akhirat….except dosa pahala….
Please quote this :
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/3/14/nation/20639090&sec=nation
Make your comment on this please people. It this news statement is true , i am truly agreed with Dr. Seri Nazri Aziz. I am gratefully happy that Malays in our modern society has developed and becoming much more educated since 1957s. Our mindset has change and we are not spectical about challenging with other races in terms education, economy, life style,etc.
What the chinese can do in business arena, malay can do too….its indeed a good mirror of reflection as learning curves …if good, we follow…if bad, we stay away…..so, the NEP will not be a relevent subject…if i can sustain my living with my own capability, i feel successful, why do i still need assistance from the government….why dont the government to channel the fund for other project developments for the benefit for all….and of course for the the next generation to come….the concept is like…we wouldnt want anyone to kill all tigers in Malaysia for the sake of personal interest that can lead to its extinction….In the end, or youngsters in coming generation do not have chance to see a real life tiger in front of them…
Remember those olden days where no indians or malays giving so called “duit poket” or ang pao during Deepavali or Hari Raya Aidilfitri?
And now what happen? It has become a culture in regardless of race or rather skins…..Why we follow? It’s it because of goodwills of the culture that it makes children and elders more happier and merrier during this celebration of wonderful festive seasons……I dont know you guys agree with me or not…..Indians,Malays, Chinese have already started within the circle of influence…as to whether make this a positive or negative influence for our coming generations..it is all depends on you…it must start with “you”…on how you shape your thinking…you must not have suspicion on each other races…one win and the other lose means we are on a losing ends….how does a broken family exist in this society?…most of the root cause was due to a simple mis understanding or suspicion….who suffer? the kids in the family….
Have you ever ask your small kids in primary schools not to make friends with indians, malay or chinese as it does not belongs to your etchnics?
People just face it…our thinking are no longer the same old like our grandfather years…we can always discuss..and compromise…these opposition coalition has never encounter such situation before in their political life….how do you expect it to respond? If everyone is so good in thinking..then we would need not to have a government..as we can rule things on our very own…human makes mistakes…especially when it comes to sensitive political seats allocation….they can work out their ways for the betterment of the states in this 4-5 years to come…..put trust on them please….
“maybe malay can only survive with special laws like for retarded people”
I can understand your anger as you feel not belong here…..once immigrant is always an immigrant.
immigrant from mainland,then came here,collect their wealth here and migrate to another country….same story for an immigrant around the world….but HERE,the immigrant dreams came true when they got their citizenship.Maybe they forgot that their ascendant is an immigrant and start to behave like they arein their own ‘house’.They forgot about in this Tanah Melayu,it have its own custom and culture,but these immigrant is so stubborn…..
and in Perak,where they’re only 31.35%,not even 1/3 of population…..God willing that they won bigger than their fellow so called loose opposition bind,they start to reveal their true colors…..not even 1/3 of population,they start to insult the Sultan,a symbol of unity for the 53.68% of Perak population…..with 1/3 of population they start to behave as they’re the kingmaker for the rest of 2/3…..
and with only 1/3 of population in Perak,when they won 18 out of 59,not even 1/3 of the seats..they start to forgot where they came from…and with less than 1/3 of the seat they won,they behave as they can overrule the Sultan…
for next GE/PRU13..let we the rakyat of Perak….put this immigrant who just have 1/3 of their mind,realise who actually own this Tanah Melayu….Let get DAP out of this Perak as Dato Maharajalela put an end to JWW Birch.
Hi slam,
You are still “BN” mindset. Everyone likes a Malaysian Malaysia and not the other way round. You sound “territorial” and it will not make Malaysia any good.
DAP although is majority Chinese but they still have Indian and even Malay as committee member. Not like a divided BN with parties according to races that actually backfired now compared to 50 years ago.
Grow up slam! We are Malaysian and should be proud to be Malaysian. Throw away the mindset on dividing Chinese, Indian and Malays in Malaysia as it will divide the country.
hello mr.slam,
no need marah,hanya orang bodoh marah.
malaysians are educated.
they know history.tanah melayu never gave ‘immigrant’ citizenship, only the british gave ‘immigrant’ citizenship and for merdeka tanah melayu must accept this ‘immigrants’ as citizen.
if u dont like u can go.
anyway i like gerimis mengundang song by slam…
ku sangkakan, panas berpanjangan,
rupanya gerimis,rupanya gerimis.
mengundang.
helo gerimis dont pretend u know sejarah …
Prof Khoo Kay Lim .. said Prinples of JUS SOLI … u know what it mean ?
stupid gerimis ! … by the way .. i feel very happy now .. u know why gerimis … ? the door is now opening slowly … we are going to the Ultimate War in this decade !
if u dont like u can go.
anyway i like gerimis mengundang song by slam…
ku sangkakan, malaysia 4 malaysians,
rupanya pendatang, TETAP PENDATANG.
here we come … rock u like a hurricane
DAP nak pegang EXCO tanah/MB nak sapu semua tanah Melayu diperak.
MB ada kuasa melulus tanah (MB concern)
Malay reserve will be revoke – Chinese with economic power had advantage to do so
Justic/equility does’t means 1 : 1 but to help the poor by giving “handicape” like practice in golf.
Do not trust people by the book. You may fell conflecence . See what happen Malay in southern thailand and Pliestine and Israel
Awas musuh dalam selimut.
i can feel …. holy #%#^ is coming soon
my salute to Mr Slam & Mr Observer
‘
message to malay warrior ultraman …
i like u so much bcoz u are warrior …. &*&*&((&*( i can hear the sound of the door .. opening slowly )
Juz to make things clear..According to the state constitution rules, i.e. Perak constitution rules, the Menteri Besar should be a Malay Muslim. However, Section 12(2) further provides that the Sultan has the discretion to waive the requirement..Pliz be reminded that we have law to be abided with..We have Sultan to be respected..We have our nation regardless Malay, Chinese and Indian..We are still Malaysian..
Appointmnet of a CM should not be based totally on which party win the most seats, it should also not be based on what are ur race and who are u..Furthermore, religion as the subject matter of discussion and open to condemnation by any person should not happen among people who received sufficient intellectual and education level..
After all, i think there is not so much problem between the 3 parties, DAP, PAS and PKR..Except for some intervention made by medias, certain individual that make things look complicated..Added by some sweet and sour perspectives made by the rakyat..Congratulation for making things look so damn controversial..
DAP in state level had consented that they will accept any listed candidates to become the CM..This apply as well to PKR and PAS..Therefore, it should not be a problem..Anyone selected by the Sultan should be accepted by each party..After all, the candidate from PAS, Mohammad Nizar, is not that bad though..Having a degree from UK, involved in constructing projects not only in Malaysia but also in Holland,Germany,Italy,Thailand,Australia,Indonesia,Qatar, Iran, Singapore and India, n good command in English, tamil, chinese language..What do u expect more anyway?? (This had been reported in The Star, 13th MArch n Harakah)
If a PAS CM is to be sworn in as a CM, it is important 4 us to understand that this Perak government is a coalition government…Having a PAS CM will not make PAS rule Perak alone..Rather PAS reassured the people of Perak that the new government will not be a PAS government..State PAS Commissioner AHmad Awang said that the party would just be a partner of the new ruling coalition government even if the CM were to be from PAS..No policies will be implemented before consultation with the other 2 parties..Similarly if the CM was from DAP or PKR, the government would not be a government of either party..Furthermore, he said that people should not be afraid of PAS participation in the government as it was not a political party to be feared of as portrayed by the BN..We can see how Kelantan government had treated people there well regardless of their races..The most interesting part is that the chinese there not only can use ‘Kelantanese dialek’, they also pray that PAS will remain as their government..If the non malays and non muslims afraid that hukum hudud will be implemented, kindly be informed that this hukum hudud will only applicable to muslim..ur hand will not be cut off for any kind of reasons..Hahaha..The group of people to be worried about the implementation of Hukum hudud is only muslim if they did anything against the religion..If no wrong had been committed why should they be afraid of this implementation?Islam is not about hukum hudud per se.. =) Just dun trust any propagandas made by the MCA ..They said that DAP had cheated the voters in Perak..They say that coz they lost peoples’ trust and people’s votes..Losers will try to blame others rather than looking at their own weaknesses..They in fact raised the issue of religion in their press statement and this is the real people who created races-crisis here and there..(Mentang2 diorg boleh control medias..)
Therefore, it is important and wise for us to remind urself that :
1. We have law
2.We have Sultan
3.The parties had made an agreement
4.This is a coalition government and it is not the PAS,PKR or DAP government alone..
p/s:We are Malaysian..Pliz use Malaysian rather than Malays, Chinese and Indian.. =)
Juz to make things clear..According to the state constitution rules, i.e. Perak constitution rules, the Menteri Besar should be a Malay Muslim. However, Section 12(2) further provides that the Sultan has the discretion to waive the requirement..Pliz be reminded that we have law to be abided with..We have Sultan to be respected..We have our nation regardless Malay, Chinese and Indian..We are still Malaysian..
Appointmnet of a CM should not be based totally on which party win the most seats, it should also not be based on what are ur race and who are u..Furthermore, religion as the subject matter of discussion and open to condemnation by any person should not happen among people who received sufficient intellectual and education level..
After all, i think there is not so much problem between the 3 parties, DAP, PAS and PKR..Except for some intervention made by medias, certain individual that make things look complicated..Added by some sweet and sour perspectives made by the rakyat..Congratulation for making things look so damn controversial..
DAP in state level had consented that they will accept any listed candidates to become the CM..This apply as well to PKR and PAS..Therefore, it should not be a problem..Anyone selected by the Sultan should be accepted by each party..After all, the candidate from PAS, Mohammad Nizar, is not that bad though..Having a degree from UK, involved in constructing projects not only in Malaysia but also in Holland,Germany,Italy,Thailand,Australia,Indonesia,Qatar, Iran, Singapore and India, n good command in English, tamil, chinese language..What do u expect more anyway?? (This had been reported in The Star, 13th MArch n Harakah)
If a PAS CM is to be sworn in as a CM, it is important 4 us to understand that this Perak government is a coalition government…Having a PAS CM will not make PAS rule Perak alone..Rather PAS reassured the people of Perak that the new government will not be a PAS government..State PAS Commissioner AHmad Awang said that the party would just be a partner of the new ruling coalition government even if the CM were to be from PAS..No policies will be implemented before consultation with the other 2 parties..Similarly if the CM was from DAP or PKR, the government would not be a government of either party..Furthermore, he said that people should not be afraid of PAS participation in the government as it was not a political party to be feared of as portrayed by the BN..We can see how Kelantan government had treated people there well regardless of their races..The most interesting part is that the chinese there not only can use ‘Kelantanese dialek’, they also pray that PAS will remain as their government..If the non malays and non muslims afraid that hukum hudud will be implemented, kindly be informed that this hukum hudud will only applicable to muslim..ur hand will not be cut off for any kind of reasons..Hahaha..The group of people to be worried about the implementation of Hukum hudud is only muslim if they did anything against the religion..If no wrong had been committed why should they be afraid of this implementation?Islam is not about hukum hudud per se.. =) Just dun trust any propagandas made by the MCA ..They said that DAP had cheated the voters in Perak..They say that coz they lost peoples’ trust and people’s votes..Losers will try to blame others rather than looking at their own weaknesses..They in fact raised the issue of religion in their press statement and this is the real people who created races-crisis here and there..(Mentang2 diorg boleh control medias..)
Therefore, it is important and wise for us to remind urself that :
1. We have law
2.We have Sultan
3.The parties had made an agreement
4.This is a coalition government..Perak is not a PAS, DAP pr PKR’s government alone..
p/s:We are Malaysian..Pliz use Malaysian rather than Malays, Chinese and Indian.. =)
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Well said….
I believe PAS is sacrifice a lot here…..?why…?
First,PAS knew that it’ll hard to get cooperation from DAP,hence the task of the MB will be very difficult to carry out.
Second,it is Sultan of Perak choice that elevate Ir Nizar as MB….from 6 ADUN of PAS and 7 ADUN of PKR and 18 ADUN of DAP,there only 9 Malay ADUN to choose from…and Sultan pick Ir Nizar….now PAS have to respect Sultan’s decision.
Third,PAS leaders will have a hard time to explain to their supporter on why they’re still cooperate with DAP after Lim Guan Eng openly humiliate PAS in Penang by saying the Penang Gov is only for DAP-PKR coalition.This is a fact that DAP is not sincere in this coalition.Why PAS must sacrifice this time in Perak?Let all PAS ADUN withdraw from the loose coalition in Perak,and let BN rule the Perak.Don’t you DAP leader see this logic?After you humiliate the PAS ADUN in Penang,now by God’s Will,He the One and Only,The Most Powerful and King of All The Kings shown His Will how the arrogant DAP need to bowed down to PAS in this special situation in Perak.I’m as Muslim believe this is God’s will after all.I just waiting a statement from Lim Guan Eng to include PAS adun to become DAP-PKR-PAS gov in penang.Try to look in Kedah,where PAS don’t have qualm to give an Exco post to the sole DAP rep in the state.PAS already sacrifice a lot to tighten this loose coalition bind…..the problem is only with arrogant DAP…..Enuff said.
Instead of debating who should be the next MB of Perak, who don’t one of you elected YB resign to give way for a by-election so that Anwar could come into the real picture and make a significant change. Otherwise, I would say that you only put your personal interests above all. The coming 13th Election may only be a blink of the eye..
Anwar had taken the lead in winning 5 states and you all should not overlook his leadership qualities.
TQ
Best wishes,
lh
please forget about different skin colours, BLESS hard for the new state government, ok !!
NAZRIN, please oversee and advise .
Dear Ideal
So skin colour do not realy play important decision.
See how Indian DAP play a card to roll the situation. They play SKIN colour to protect thier interest…. You still paper will tought like you… This is politics. In politic today is your friend, tommorow no body know.. think what hapen in Sri Lanka ( we have to thinck 10 steps ahead) before too late.
They manage to get 2 post — the speaker … The Malay say :Tak Pa lah, lama-lama tinggal Celpa” . This is typical Malay mind set”. The Indian Smart….
One day .. Tamil and China will control the Malaysian Politic even Indian Tamil is about 7% of Malaysian Population.
Anwar after follow him for a while -.. Is more chrismatic politician with its own political agenda that will put Malay/Bumiputra in tough situation.
His fight with Mahathir has made Malay loss many thing in the political strungle.
PAS through its ISLAMIC soft tone but Malay culture style has made Malay divided…. Remember ……. How Pleistenian land has loose to Israelis…
Warrior
Dear All
In the future, do you think DAP is fool. They field Malay/Bumiputra Candidate… Orang Asli in Pinji..Chinese majority seat.
So do imagine … PAS will become CM any more
Do not to ideal in Politic.
Pls do no judge politic from social science view of point……
It happen in any country worldwide… i india. China Thailand
What happen to Tibet
The Malay will left with with slogan and nostalgia…
Chinese rich because money laundary …. They sell goods more expensive to Malay than. Now start demand everything even discount grantaed for Bumiputra to buy house 5% is quiry
Can you till me how many shophouses or shoplot own by Bumiputra in Ipoh How many percentage… They do not worry about ECONOMIC they already control Malaysian economic in any sort of bussiness from VCD cetak rompak, saundry shops, surat khabar lama bussiness …. small and big industries until big drug smugler bussiness and money laundry.
Melayu only in PASAR MALAM and small plot of MARA . Or MLM bussiness on line .. skim cepat kaya oriented and ladies with beuty shop outlet (no chinese or India coming). among themself with pamplet distribute in Masjid.
They now eye for POLITIC agenda. Hunger for politic… PAS with gentle is the right vehicle for such secret agenda in the long run.
Think about its .. pls do not to implicit in your thinking
Melayu pun sudah lupa guna bahasa sendiri untuk berbicara. orang cina dan thailadn guna bahasa ibunda dalam majlis-majlis rasmi. Melayu semangkin tepingir.. dapat sedikit udah muda lupa.
Worrior
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No once can isolate race in politics or any other form of human activity in a place like Malaysia. Its constitution formulates and upholds a long held tradition and practice of the division of the various constituencies into race, religious groupings; And by convention the colour of ones skin is a determinant not spoken in public but ruthlessley enforced in private.
The state of Perak has tested through the force and intimidation of the federal government an unconstitutional act of replacing a popularly elected government with a hastily assembled group of unrespresentative opportunists.
The Sultan of Perak may well have been the Lord President of the Malaysian High Court, but that in itself does not render him invincible or infallible.
The constitution of the state does not permit the Sultan to usurp the most powerful court in the state, that being the legislature, or for him to make a value judgements or political ones in breach of the limits of the powers he dereives from the Federal and State constitutions. And where a conflict in the two arise the Federal constitution must prevail at least to the extent of those conflicting provisions.
Additionally he must not act of his own volition but on the advice of the Mentri Besar and the attorney general. Their advice cannot be partial or unconstitutional either. Not the mentri besar to be but that in office. And he has failed to that extent.
It was not up to three individuals to address the sultan that there was no confidence in the existing government but for parliament in Perak (state assembly) to demonstrate that. To go outside that structure and to unseat a government is a coup. And thats exactly what happened laast week.
The constitution may be silent on a number of issues that unravelled in Perak last week as it may not have anticipated good men of conscience acting in such a perfidious manner in pursuit of personal ambition to act in the way they did. And most certainly when the constitutions of the federated states and the federation was created none of this was anticipated. There are conventions which are just as compelling on all of us as is the written word. And the convention that the sultan must not make decisions abuot parliament and its business was breached last week.
Where he is caught between the devil and the deep blue as he appears to have been in this case, then the Sultan must righfully dissolve parliament. An ignorant or undereducated soveriegn (and there are many of these) can be forgiven for making such an egregious decision bringing his office and his personal reputation into disrepute being tarnished by his recent conduct.
Not this one though who apart from his conduct in Spain during the Olympics which is found on world web sites now, served as the highest legal officer in the country for a time.
His family have a legal tradition which traditionally in Malaysia places them in a position of veneration by Malays and non Malays within and outside the state alike.
The words of his son Raja Nazrin are a shameful demonstration of the mindset of a benevolent dictator which role the Sultan’s are meant to have shed a long time ago.
The courts are the place for theatrics as he terms it. The courts are constitutionally there to protect everyone from an abuse of power by the soveriegns, petty dictators, those who can be bought and sold and those whose only claim or right to rule is the abuse of law sanctified by the use of state force.
The Sultan’s palace is quite clearly apart from his publicised romps and philandering, the place for the theatrics he espouses to but no those where the constitution is involved. For that the courts aare the rightful plance and he should in no way influence it with his thinly veiled threats.
An increasing tendency to this last from appears to have emerged under Abdullah Badawi through his total indolence in office. Those who instead see it as an opportunity to pull the strings behind the scenes are getting away with murder. Literally.
The sight of Malays who venerate their sovereign on the streets outside the Royal Palace bravely facing the Riot Police recently is an ominous sign the Sultan should heed to.
During the French Reveloution, an event in human history which has repeated itself in many other places from the Russian Boshevik to the fall of the Shah of Iran is littered with examples of benevolent despots suddenly being confronted with the stark truth. Their power comes from the common people. Not from spectres, crowns, sashes and bullet proof limousines bought with public money. And yes women in foreign countries who undress them for the camera.
The dignity of Raja Azlan Shah was stripped of him several years back. It is now his political dignity that he has shed for some political prostitues.
Beware the Ides of March.
Devil’s Advocate
Just to clear your consience- It’s there in Article XII (1) and Article XII(2) of the Undang-Undang Tubuh Negeri Perak
“No person shall be appointed to be the Menteri Besar unless he is of Malay race and professes the Muslim Religion: Provided that His Highness may in His discretion waive either or both of the foregoing requirements of this pragraph relating to race and Mulis Religion whenever he shall consider it expedient so to do.
What His Higness did was rightly within His power.
Dear Lilly
an interesting comment indeed. However one cannot but see the glaring defects in the wording of the constitution from the quote you advance in furtherance of your argument.
the ‘social contract’ which commentators appear to refer to each time there is a debate about abuses of political authority and power is redundant. It is the “elephant in the room”.
That contract as it is referred to is not a dynamic document or agreement at all. Society has changed as has the power and position of the Malays.
What we are witness to is the assertion of their power under different cirumstances. At independence they were in a manner of speaking like the Palestinians of 1948 if I can draw an analogy to make my point simpler. They were bullied and had no real consensus on the issue of how an independent Malaya was to be governed. If they did it could have been better, more equitable or maybe even worse. But thats speculative.
Whats factual and this is where the Palestinian analogy may assist in understanding their position. The Malays today are a different and more empowered and informed generation questioning their displacement politically and economically at independence. What their s called representatives did in their name was not what they had a god given right to claim and enjoy as Malays in their own natural homeland.
As non Malays we have the opportunity to now re negotiate that position we all are entitled to and to do so without belligerence. It is a reality we face or we could as many do pretend that universal doctrines and rules do not exist and that our pre eminent position as merchants and settlers protected by the British and nurtured by the tengku and others is an equal right. It is not. It was a privilege we managed to enjoy tilll the Malay woke up.
It may not be pleasant but we have to re negotiate. For that we need leaders who are competent. Badawi is not one such leader, Anwar isn’t one and neither are Samy Velu or the MCA cadres.
What you see with the emergence of Hindraf is potentially what no emerging pluralistic democracy (thats what Malaysia sees itself as) wants in their midst. An otherwise benign democratic underclass electing their own to achieve their goals and access their share of the pie denied them crushed by illegal and undemocratic means.
Badawi accuses them of being all sorts of things because they displace his buddies in the corrupt MIC. So he orders in the armed forrces detains their leaders and literally starts a war,deprives them of basic rights and allows the forces to torture and kill them in detention thereby creating a division that did not exist before.
It is now a test of the nations fabric to see if they can cope with such a situation of plitical and racial stress. Something is brewing which is very unpleasant which I won’t go into any detail here.
The Sultan’s powers are no longer his to use without responsibly because the Federal constitution is not meant to discriminate and neither is the Sultan. he is merely a traditional ruler not meant to have any more political power than you or me.
Where a conflict of laws arise, the Federal constitution prevails. He is no longer allowed to appoint someone on the basis of religion or race alone to the detriment of other races and religions. Its universally held as being repugnant to international law and unlawful within the Malaysian context.
The wording of that article says “No person shall be appointed to the Mentri besar?” that in itself gives rise to debate and uncertainty about the validity of that statement and the correctness of the language used. It is gramatically incorrect and the language ancient and ambigous. It does not say no person shall (or may or will would have been more appropriatee word to use) to the OFFICE or POSITION of Mentri Besar which would have cured that defect of poor drafting.
In the use of his discretion he the Sultan erred and he chose to discriminate in breach of the Federal Constitution at least to the extent of a convention if not an article or statute that protects and preserves that right to equality before the law.
In the face of controversy the Sultan is often perceived and looked upon as a force for settlement of disputes rather than an agent provocatuer which this man turned out to be.
In concluding I say this. The Sultans of Malaysia themselves are not pure Malays. The Sultan of Perak is one such example. He is of Gujarati (Indian), Malay, Thai and Chinese extraction. His children who will succeed him are of even more mixed blood. How now would he justify continuing to hold office. is there not a vexed question of his leegitmacy if one has to be precise in adhereing to the black letter law?
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The fact is that members of the opposition did cross the floor. The fact is the Sultan has reserve powers and has not acted unlawfully. Perhaps his actions were unpopular if you accept the politics of morality. But that holds no weight in such a situation.
The DAP should never be allowed to form government anywhere at any time till it removes it offensive Chinese characters in its ads, its notices and its policy statements. It should either be Bahasa or English two languages people ought to know. If not tough.
The DAP are quick to call UMNO and the Barisan racist. Their actions speak louder than words. Thy have no Tamil, Malayalam or Punjabi on their web pages, their policy announcements or other statements but are happy to accommodate the Chinese. They are happy for the Chinese to be ambivalent about their citizenship and loyalties by not communicating in a language others can understand. But they want the same rights as others when they will not give others the same rights they want.
If the Sultans did not have those reserve powers as protectors of the rights of the mainly Malay population (something I am prepared to concede) then the Chinese will overrun the place like they did in Singapore and that I and many others not Chinese or Malays will not accept. Not twice in our lifetime.
I would rather be a second hand citizen in a Malay dominated country than a first class citizen in a Singapore style republic. We all know what that means if you are not Chinese.