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	<description>Personal thoughts of Wan Saiful Wan Jan</description>
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		<title>By: free dress up games</title>
		<link>http://wansaiful.com/2007/02/25/the-tukang-urut-amongs-us/#comment-4283</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[free dress up games]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 18:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Powerful post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Powerful post.</p>
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		<title>By: abuhandzalah</title>
		<link>http://wansaiful.com/2007/02/25/the-tukang-urut-amongs-us/#comment-1628</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[abuhandzalah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I first  thought this post is just another one of your general eye-opening session of the day, but after reading all the comments, somehow there is a subtle message that I think I managed to grab. Keep on writing abg wan and may Allah guide all of us to be on the right path.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I first  thought this post is just another one of your general eye-opening session of the day, but after reading all the comments, somehow there is a subtle message that I think I managed to grab. Keep on writing abg wan and may Allah guide all of us to be on the right path.</p>
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		<title>By: ikram</title>
		<link>http://wansaiful.com/2007/02/25/the-tukang-urut-amongs-us/#comment-1618</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ikram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 13:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[makin kuat pula mereka menyeru supaya kita &quot;mengikut saluran yang betul&quot; !!!

panik beb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>makin kuat pula mereka menyeru supaya kita &#8220;mengikut saluran yang betul&#8221; !!!</p>
<p>panik beb.</p>
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		<title>By: mercapada</title>
		<link>http://wansaiful.com/2007/02/25/the-tukang-urut-amongs-us/#comment-1613</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mercapada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 13:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[:-)

I am starting to blog, although I have a bit of difficulty in expressing myself. Still and will always learn from veteran bloggers like Ustaz Hasrizal and Abang Wan.

I have one rule for myself so far, no mixing of languages. Hope I won&#039;t break my own rule when I start blogging.

Can&#039;t wait for Abang Wan next issue. Press on!]]></description>
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<p>I am starting to blog, although I have a bit of difficulty in expressing myself. Still and will always learn from veteran bloggers like Ustaz Hasrizal and Abang Wan.</p>
<p>I have one rule for myself so far, no mixing of languages. Hope I won&#8217;t break my own rule when I start blogging.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait for Abang Wan next issue. Press on!</p>
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		<title>By: Sharis</title>
		<link>http://wansaiful.com/2007/02/25/the-tukang-urut-amongs-us/#comment-1610</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m currenly lecturing.

My dear brother, for me this thing is ijtihadi...Al Qardhawi said there are times that we better keep quiet (for time being) rather than make an open statement (that could be detrimental).  A &#039;redha&#039; silence is different from a &#039;strategized&#039; silence.  Anyway, you could judge better since you&#039;re closer.

Al Qardhawi gave two examples (that I can remember) from his book.  One is when the sahabas asked our beloved Prophet s.a.w. why he kept quiet regarding the hypocrites, while he knew each of them.  He said that I&#039;m afraid that people will say that Muhammad s.a.w. kills his own people; thus the society will be in chaos (in other words harm is more than good).

And another prove is in the Quran where prophet Harun a.s. who stayed with the Bani Israel who got lost in the desert, he saw them praying to the golden cow, but yet he kept quiet (for that moment) and waited until Moses came back.

Abu Saif please correct me if I&#039;m wrong.  

Anyway, we make our own calls and should be &#039;berjiwa besar&#039; to get any reaction be it welcomed or unwelcomed in nature.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m currenly lecturing.</p>
<p>My dear brother, for me this thing is ijtihadi&#8230;Al Qardhawi said there are times that we better keep quiet (for time being) rather than make an open statement (that could be detrimental).  A &#8216;redha&#8217; silence is different from a &#8216;strategized&#8217; silence.  Anyway, you could judge better since you&#8217;re closer.</p>
<p>Al Qardhawi gave two examples (that I can remember) from his book.  One is when the sahabas asked our beloved Prophet s.a.w. why he kept quiet regarding the hypocrites, while he knew each of them.  He said that I&#8217;m afraid that people will say that Muhammad s.a.w. kills his own people; thus the society will be in chaos (in other words harm is more than good).</p>
<p>And another prove is in the Quran where prophet Harun a.s. who stayed with the Bani Israel who got lost in the desert, he saw them praying to the golden cow, but yet he kept quiet (for that moment) and waited until Moses came back.</p>
<p>Abu Saif please correct me if I&#8217;m wrong.  </p>
<p>Anyway, we make our own calls and should be &#8216;berjiwa besar&#8217; to get any reaction be it welcomed or unwelcomed in nature.</p>
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		<title>By: ABU SAIF</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ABU SAIF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Change can be achieved by educating the audience. The only challenge is how to convey the prerequisite topic which is&quot;how to become teachable&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Change can be achieved by educating the audience. The only challenge is how to convey the prerequisite topic which is&#8221;how to become teachable&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Wan Saiful</title>
		<link>http://wansaiful.com/2007/02/25/the-tukang-urut-amongs-us/#comment-1607</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wan Saiful]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wah..... Bos. Lama tak dengar cerita. Nottingham? Since when and what for?

I don&#039;t quite agree with the notion of &#039;mendiamkan diri&#039;. Our example is the Prophet and he definitely did not stay quiet. 

And we should not have a double standard. There are people in PAS who says, lawan tetap lawan when facing people from the &quot;other side&quot;. But when it comes to internal incompetence, they say jangan lawan. The result is what you have now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wah&#8230;.. Bos. Lama tak dengar cerita. Nottingham? Since when and what for?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t quite agree with the notion of &#8216;mendiamkan diri&#8217;. Our example is the Prophet and he definitely did not stay quiet. </p>
<p>And we should not have a double standard. There are people in PAS who says, lawan tetap lawan when facing people from the &#8220;other side&#8221;. But when it comes to internal incompetence, they say jangan lawan. The result is what you have now.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[waaa, ni ape citer nie?  

A&#039;kum all, just heard that my former president opened a weblog.  Tu yang intai-intai masuk ni.  

A lot of things happening in the UK ke since I left end of 2004?

Anyway good luck to Wan Saiful for your venture, as we have a lot of things to do here in Malaysia as well.  I met Dr. Akop, he talked about you last week.  I&#039;m looking forward to visiting UK later this year.  Hopefully by then, I can visit your concillor&#039;s office.

Kat Malaysia ni ada aim baru. &quot;We want substance not rhetoric&quot;.  But we have very limited manpower and especially &#039;brains&#039;  to realise this.  Yang ada  &#039;brain&#039; pulak tak sabar (darah muda) dan bila kecewa menyepikan diri.  TGNA and TGAH tak pernah putus asa disepanjang tribulasi di bawah kepimpinan Datuk Asri malah menghormati dan seboleh-bolehnya &#039;mendiamkan diri&#039;. kerana &#039;your time will come&#039;, insya Allah.  Then you have to prove and have the freedom to exercise what you have preached before.  

just my 2 cents (sampai sekarang tak faham apa maksud ni?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>waaa, ni ape citer nie?  </p>
<p>A&#8217;kum all, just heard that my former president opened a weblog.  Tu yang intai-intai masuk ni.  </p>
<p>A lot of things happening in the UK ke since I left end of 2004?</p>
<p>Anyway good luck to Wan Saiful for your venture, as we have a lot of things to do here in Malaysia as well.  I met Dr. Akop, he talked about you last week.  I&#8217;m looking forward to visiting UK later this year.  Hopefully by then, I can visit your concillor&#8217;s office.</p>
<p>Kat Malaysia ni ada aim baru. &#8220;We want substance not rhetoric&#8221;.  But we have very limited manpower and especially &#8216;brains&#8217;  to realise this.  Yang ada  &#8216;brain&#8217; pulak tak sabar (darah muda) dan bila kecewa menyepikan diri.  TGNA and TGAH tak pernah putus asa disepanjang tribulasi di bawah kepimpinan Datuk Asri malah menghormati dan seboleh-bolehnya &#8216;mendiamkan diri&#8217;. kerana &#8216;your time will come&#8217;, insya Allah.  Then you have to prove and have the freedom to exercise what you have preached before.  </p>
<p>just my 2 cents (sampai sekarang tak faham apa maksud ni?)</p>
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		<title>By: SK</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ada avatar nampaknya. Mungkinkah gambar itu yg patutnya kluar instead of Musa Hitam dulu? :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ada avatar nampaknya. Mungkinkah gambar itu yg patutnya kluar instead of Musa Hitam dulu? <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hazri</title>
		<link>http://wansaiful.com/2007/02/25/the-tukang-urut-amongs-us/#comment-1602</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hazri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this tantamount to a rejection of the doctrine of collective responsibility?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this tantamount to a rejection of the doctrine of collective responsibility?</p>
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